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Old 10-27-2023, 11:34 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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We're now into our 4th teachers strike regionally during the start of 2023.

There is a huge push to get students and parents to walk the picket lines. (we're an easily 'swayed' society)
The current impending strike includes specific dialogue (suggestions (?)) from striking teachers.
Teachers at Portland school ask parents to refuse Chromebooks offered by school district as strike looms
Parents aren't all so keen on that guidance.
“I just couldn't believe we were being asked to refuse one way of being able to connect with their peers or online learning opportunities during a strike,” said Pitts. "It feels that we're in a corner and that our voices are being used as if we're pawns in a game.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...904ffab7&ei=13

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"If you don't vote this in... We're closing the doors, removing services, putting your kids at risk"


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Old 10-27-2023, 12:33 PM
 
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Because schools received Federal taxpayer funding, the Hatch Act should apply to schools.
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:49 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Because schools received Federal taxpayer funding, the Hatch Act should apply to schools.
Thirty seven states ban teacher strikes (as well as by other public employees).

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/ma...strike/2023/03
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Old 10-27-2023, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Thirty seven states ban teacher strikes (as well as by other public employees).

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/ma...strike/2023/03
Despite once being a building rep for the teacher's union in our old county, I am opposed to teachers striking, but I do support "work to the rule" as a teacher's option.
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Old 10-27-2023, 06:07 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Despite once being a building rep for the teacher's union in our old county, I am opposed to teachers striking, but I do support "work to the rule" as a teacher's option.
We weren't permitted to strike there in any event, Maryland is one of the states that bans them.
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Old 10-27-2023, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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We weren't permitted to strike there in any event, Maryland is one of the states that bans them.
Right. In my time there I wasn't very impressed with the union.

And when I moved to Virginia -- a right to work state -- we didn't have a union, per se.
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Old 10-27-2023, 07:14 PM
 
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Thirty seven states ban teacher strikes (as well as by other public employees).

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/ma...strike/2023/03
Hatch act is about more than just strikes. What I'm talking about is using their position to influence parents on how to vote. We got all sorts of stuff sent home asking us vote one way or another on various issues. Always the veiled threat that if we voted the "wrong" way of dire consequences for the kids. I would have been fired, and rightly so, if I tried to use my position to influence how the public votes.
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Old 10-28-2023, 04:37 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Hatch act is about more than just strikes. What I'm talking about is using their position to influence parents on how to vote. We got all sorts of stuff sent home asking us vote one way or another on various issues. Always the veiled threat that if we voted the "wrong" way of dire consequences for the kids. I would have been fired, and rightly so, if I tried to use my position to influence how the public votes.
The Hatch Act only covers direct federal employee, if it covered everybody or every organization that received federal funding you'd have about six people able to participate. In any event, it's been loosened up over the years.

Trying to limit teacher participation in work related issues would also likely have some 1st Amendment problems.

All, I repeat all, mailings on issues have a "veiled" threat imbued in them. Some are factual, some are hyperbole.
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Old 10-28-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The Hatch Act only covers direct federal employee, if it covered everybody or every organization that received federal funding you'd have about six people able to participate. In any event, it's been loosened up over the years.

Trying to limit teacher participation in work related issues would also likely have some 1st Amendment problems.

All, I repeat all, mailings on issues have a "veiled" threat imbued in them. Some are factual, some are hyperbole.
Veiled threats. Too bad. LOL. How many times are educators threatened by parents, and voters (like right here on this forum), and politicians.
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Old 10-28-2023, 07:32 PM
 
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The Hatch Act only covers direct federal employee, if it covered everybody or every organization that received federal funding you'd have about six people able to participate. In any event, it's been loosened up over the years.

Trying to limit teacher participation in work related issues would also likely have some 1st Amendment problems.

All, I repeat all, mailings on issues have a "veiled" threat imbued in them. Some are factual, some are hyperbole.
I understand the Hatch Act. That was my point -- teachers are public employees, yet use their position to influence public vote. That is unethical as a public employee at any level. There needs to be a "Hatch Act" equivalent for teachers, principals, and other school employees.
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