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[VA Outdoorsman]

Suggesting that conservative people move to Tennessee or West Virginia at this point is disenfranchisement.

Tennessee is a beautiful but land-locked state. It's already jam-packed with Conservatives who continue move there in droves only to dilute their political power. Soon all we will have left is Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky and a few sparsely populated interior states like Wyoming and South Dakota. Not even Texas is immune to Democrat control. Conservatives who want their votes to matter but still want to be removed from woke culture should be moving to deep red or better yet, purple areas, of swing states like Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia instead.

[lionsgators]

Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit

So Southwest VA still has the death penalty and doesn't tell anyone about it?

interesting. you answered my question with a question, when there is clearly an answer. the answer is no, you've not left your NOVA bubble. the nice part of VA is more than just all the colleges.

[Veritas Vincit]

Originally Posted by lionsgators

interesting. you answered my question with a question, when there is clearly an answer. the answer is no, you've not left your NOVA bubble. the nice part of VA is more than just all the colleges.

So clearly the rules made in Richmond apply wherever you are in Virginia after all. It's not 1890 and the countryside isn't insulated from what happens in the cities or the laws passed by the state. I don't have to visit every little small town in rural Virginia to know that. It's got nothing do with 'living in a bubble'; it's just logical thinking.

[VA Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit

It's not 1890 and the countryside isn't insulated from what happens in the cities or the laws passed by the state.

The cities are also not insulated from what happens in our hallowed countryside - as was shown during the last election.

Virginia's southern, agrarian roots and Jeffersonian tradition keep her from being fully exploited by big city elites coming down from D.C., unlike the ever-soft, small and exploitable, Maryland.

[lionsgators]

Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit

So clearly the rules made in Richmond apply wherever you are in Virginia after all. It's not 1890 and the countryside isn't insulated from what happens in the cities or the laws passed by the state. I don't have to visit every little small town in rural Virginia to know that. It's got nothing do with 'living in a bubble'; it's just logical thinking.

I work for the state of virginia. richmond makes suggestions, but we make our own rules. I know you may not like, or understand that, but that's the reality. leave the bubble. I live where you people go for vacation.

[Veritas Vincit]

Originally Posted by lionsgators

I work for the state of virginia. richmond makes suggestions, but we make our own rules. I know you may not like, or understand that, but that's the reality. leave the bubble. I live where you people go for vacation.

You may think that, but you're mistaken. Every Democratic governor is turning VA a little more into New York or Connecticut, and there's little you can do about it, because it's not like a guy like Youngkin will do anything to reverse it. He'll at best slow it down for a while until he gets replaced with the next Democrat.


Ask conservatives in places like CA or NY state whether it's irrelevant what's decided in the state capital.

[VA Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit

You may think that, but you're mistaken. Every Democratic governor is turning VA a little more into New York or Connecticut, and there's little you can do about it, because it's not like a guy like Youngkin will do anything to reverse it. He'll at best slow it down for a while until he gets replaced with the next Democrat.


Ask conservatives in places like CA or NY state whether it's irrelevant what's decided in the state capital.

Not so fast. You really do live in a bubble.

That may have been the case during the last decade but Democrats still had ok margins in the rest of the state back then -- Democrat support has been eroding even more rapidly in Virginia (outside of NoVa and the cities) since around the mid-2010s. Remember, even Mark Warner won parts of Southwest in the 2000s. That would not happen today.

Things have changed where Southwest, the Shenandoah Valley and South/Central Virginia now have have many localities that shifted so far to the right in the last several years (80-90%+ for some precincts), that similar Democratic gains in NoVa are being reined in. This fact alone will change statewide elections going forward. Not to mention a population loss occurring in Northern Va. at the same time there is a slight -- but trending -- rural population gain in Virginia.

[Serious Conversation]

Originally Posted by VA Outdoorsman

Suggesting that conservative people move to Tennessee or West Virginia at this point is disenfranchisement.

Tennessee is a beautiful but land-locked state. It's already jam-packed with Conservatives who continue move there in droves only to dilute their political power. Soon all we will have left is Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky and a few sparsely populated interior states like Wyoming and South Dakota. Not even Texas is immune to Democrat control. Conservatives who want their votes to matter but still want to be removed from woke culture should be moving to deep red or better yet, purple areas, of swing states like Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia instead.

Even the counties in southwest VA (mostly coal country) that used to vote for Democrats are very culturally conservative. They only voted blue based on historical union ties. The cultural ties have now swung so far to the right that I doubt you'll ever have a meaningful blue vote there again, but the flip side is that many of those counties are just so terrible that no one wants to live there, businesses won't locate there, and their significance is going to continue to erode.

VA, NC, and GA are swing to purple-ish states. You have to have some level of balance and compromise to function there.

I'm from Bristol. I was very active in the local Republican Party from 2007 to 2012 when I moved out of the area. I came back in 2016, and especially post-pandemic, the political atmosphere is to go far as to the right and be as noisy and obnoxious as possible. There's no balance there - it's becoming more extreme and complete echo chamber. "Political refugees" are coming in from wealthier issues, professing "local" values, but they're more than happy to bring CA/IL/NY/MA money with them that is not really possibly to earn locally.

Some of my complaints are local issues, but I split time between Bristol and western NC, and other than cost of living, WNC is just far superior, including more balanced politics and less "in your face" extremism.

[badger74]

Seems very clear. https://www.politico.com/election-re...2021/virginia/

[NOVA_guy]

Originally Posted by lionsgators

interesting. you answered my question with a question, when there is clearly an answer. the answer is no, you've not left your NOVA bubble. the nice part of VA is more than just all the colleges.

I’d rather stay in the NoVa bubble. Virginia, like a lot of these southern states these days, seems to have taken steps backwards and it’s embarrassing.