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The DC area seems to have low nativity rates all over. They're also relatively low even far removed from the core city. Keep in mind that these percentages are for the non-Hispanic White population. I've also thrown in a few other towns in metros that are multi-jurisdictional (in South Jersey, for example, much of the Italian population came from Philadelphia).
Chevy Chase - 11.30%
Bethesda CDP - 12.62%
Potomac - 17.55%
Alexandria - 18.99%
Silver Spring - 19.14%
Arlington - 22.30%
Rockville - 23.03%
Falls Church - 25.32%
Annandale - 25.72%
Burke - 25.77%
Gaithersburg - 26.70%
Greenwich, CT - 27.49%
Springfield - 30.19%
Germantown - 32.26%
Columbia - 33.87%
Decatur, GA - 35.89%
Alpharetta, GA - 36.49%
Annapolis - 36.69%
Jersey City, NJ - 38.08%
Poolesville - 40.55%
Burtonsville - 41.91%
Stamford, CT - 44.04%
Hoboken, NJ - 44.11%
Cherry Hill, NJ - 44.87%
Providence, RI - 44.98%
Fredericksburg, VA - 46.76%
Hockessin, DE - 47.22%
Old Tappan, NJ - 55.01%
Perth Amboy, NJ - 58.28%
Towson, MD - 58.61%
Bloomfield, NJ - 65.70%
North Caldwell, NJ - 68.73%
West Chester, PA - 69.77%
Scituate, MA - 71.67%
Woonsocket, RI - 72.70%
Conshocken, PA - 80.17%
Last edited by BajanYankee; 01-09-2015 at 01:59 PM..
I thought you were referring specifically to DC proper. Some of your statements reference the burbs while another tosses Baltimore into the calculus. You would have to define what you mean. Are we talking the entire DMV region?
My point was that low nativity rates for non-Hispanic Whites isn't just specific to the District. That's something you see in the metro area as a whole. So if you're anywhere in the DC metro, you're a lot less likely to meet someone who grew up in the region. I mean, it's really a case of basic math. The DC metro area has doubled in size since 1970. Boston and Philadelphia's metros have not grown that much in the last 45 years (about 700,000 each).
I was also saying that DC has more transplants than New York. That's an objective statistical fact.
It's even more interesting to look at the Hispanic population. Even though NYC has one of the largest foreign born percentages, nearly half of its Hispanic population was born in New York State.
Washington, DC - 20.76%
Fairfax (VA) - 27.65%
Montgomery (MD) - 28.01%
Queens (NY) - 42.60%
Manhattan (NY) - 44.97%
New York City - 47.04%
Philadelphia - 47.16%
Los Angeles - 49.21%
The DC area seems to have low nativity rates all over. They're also relatively low even far removed from the core city. Keep in mind that these percentages are for the non-Hispanic White population. I've also thrown in a few other towns in metros that are multi-jurisdictional (in South Jersey, for example, much of the Italian population came from Philadelphia).
Chevy Chase - 11.30%
Bethesda CDP - 12.62%
Potomac - 17.55%
Alexandria - 18.99%
Silver Spring - 19.14%
Arlington - 22.30%
Rockville - 23.03%
Falls Church - 25.32%
Annandale - 25.72%
Burke - 25.77%
Gaithersburg - 26.70%
Greenwich, CT - 27.49%
Springfield - 30.19%
Germantown - 32.26%
Columbia - 33.87%
Decatur, GA - 35.89%
Alpharetta, GA - 36.49%
Annapolis - 36.69%
Jersey City, NJ - 38.08%
Poolesville - 40.55%
Burtonsville - 41.91%
Stamford, CT - 44.04%
Cherry Hill, NJ - 44.87%
Providence, RI - 44.98%
Fredericksburg, VA - 46.76%
Hockessin, DE - 47.22%
Old Tappan, NJ - 55.01%
Perth Amboy, NJ - 58.28%
Towson, MD - 58.61%
Bloomfield, NJ - 65.70%
West Chester, PA - 69.77%
Scituate, MA - 71.67%
Woonsocket, RI - 72.70%
Conshocken, PA - 80.17%
Oh, nice to see my old high school town up there- Old Tappan. Kind of strange but somehow it brings about this connection. Thanks for the post...
By the way, I was 1 of 4 black students that graduted from my class of 330 back in the early 90s. The rest was jewish, italo-american and of course korean.
Oh, nice to see my old high school town up there- Old Tappan. Kind of strange but somehow it brings about this connection. Thanks for the post...
By the way, I was 1 of 4 black students that graduted from my class of 330 back in the early 90s. The rest was jewish, italo-american and of course korean.
Cool.
It's interesting that even with all of the spillover into Jersey from New York, the majority of non-Hispanic White Old Tappan residents were born in the Garden State. That seems to be the case with many towns in North Jersey with the exception of JC and Hoboken. The closest thing I could find to a Potomac or Bethesda in the NYC area was Greenwich (similar to inner Maryland suburbs in that it straddles jurisdictional lines). But not even Greenwich had a rate that low.
Some more interesting data (to me anyways). These are data for the number and percentage of U.S. born residents of these MSAs that were born in a state outside of the region of their current residence. So for the DC metro area, that's the Northeast, Midwest and West.
Los Angeles - 1,605,241 (12.29%)
Phoenix - 1,368,709 (31.61%) Washington, DC - 1,320,248 (22.74%)
Miami - 1,263,369 (21.92%)
New York - 1,154,835 (6.02%)
Atlanta - 1,116,771 (20.52%)
Dallas - 1,116,403 (16.38%)
Chicago - 919,371 (9.65%)
Houston - 769,418 (12.40%)
San Francisco - 711,577 (15.97%)
Seattle - 680,680 (19.16%)
Philadelphia - 626,569 (10.41%)
Baltimore - 474,267 (17.22%)
Charlotte - 398,312 (21.75%)
Boston - 387,516 (8.35%)
Raleigh-Durham - 300,415 (25.27%)
Pittsburgh - 258,195 (10.93%)
Despite being a much smaller metro, Baltimore has nearly as many people born in the Midwest or Western U.S. as Boston. The DC metro area has more people born in the Midwest and Western U.S. than the NYC metro.
Last edited by BajanYankee; 01-09-2015 at 03:39 PM..
This idea was provoked to me by a friend of mine who moved to DC for law school. He says that he really enjoys the city, its political environment and what it has to offer.
He does say it has some drawbacks however. One of the top aspects he described was, as he put, "I meet many people but everyone I meet is from somewhere else. No one is actually from here it seems."
He went to say how he prefers New York and, though also has many transplants, because you can find native New Yorkers to a degree.
I know much of this could be relative because all large cities have transplants, but he really emphasized that DC is different because the city itself is artificially created for the federal government. Therefore, the nature of work often moves and it is hard to keep someone in the city to form a strong generation of natives.
This is at least from what he told me, I have only visited DC once so it is hard for me to get a feel for what he said. Could someone elaborate and give truth for this or is he overlooking certain aspects?
That's true of any large city. Look at Chicago.
I'm from here. Columbia Hospital for Women 1953.
That's true of any large city. Look at Chicago.
I'm from here. Columbia Hospital for Women 1953.
Chicago is a bad example. There are a lot of midwest (Big 10 graduates) transplants, but there are tons of native Chicagoans of all races who have lived in Chicago their entire lives. If you live in the city, you run into lifelong Chicagoans all the time, from all demographics and walks of life. A sizable portion of Chicago residents also grew up in the Chicagoland burbs (and vice-verse, many Chicago natives will move a few miles out into the burbs). Last year with the terrible winter we had, people joked that, that was the first time all the lifelong Chicagoans probably considered moving.
This idea was provoked to me by a friend of mine who moved to DC for law school. He says that he really enjoys the city, its political environment and what it has to offer.
He does say it has some drawbacks however. One of the top aspects he described was, as he put, "I meet many people but everyone I meet is from somewhere else. No one is actually from here it seems."
He went to say how he prefers New York and, though also has many transplants, because you can find native New Yorkers to a degree.
I know much of this could be relative because all large cities have transplants, but he really emphasized that DC is different because the city itself is artificially created for the federal government. Therefore, the nature of work often moves and it is hard to keep someone in the city to form a strong generation of natives.
This is at least from what he told me, I have only visited DC once so it is hard for me to get a feel for what he said. Could someone elaborate and give truth for this or is he overlooking certain aspects?
There are lots of locals AND transplants all over the city. Is there a benefit to knowing locals? Personally, I like the fact there are so many transplants in DC. I've lived in places that are 99% locals and being an outsider sucked. You were treated as such. In DC, I don't get that vibe at all since I run into very few locals because I where I live and work. Generally, I think a lot of the locals live in SE, SW, and NE (mostly African-American neighborhoods). I would say NW has the greatest proportion of transplants in DC.
There are lots of locals AND transplants all over the city. Is there a benefit to knowing locals? Personally, I like the fact there are so many transplants in DC. I've lived in places that are 99% locals and being an outsider sucked. You were treated as such. In DC, I don't get that vibe at all since I run into very few locals because I where I live and work. Generally, I think a lot of the locals live in SE, SW, and NE (mostly African-American neighborhoods). I would say NW has the greatest proportion of transplants in DC.
There's still local African Americans and general Black Americans living in Northwest as well, particularly LeDroit Park, Shaw, U Street, Truxton Circle, the Georgia Ave neighborhoods (Takoma, Shepard Park, Petworth, Park View, Brightwood, etc.), Adams Morgan, Columbia Heights, Mount Pleasant, and even a remaining handful in Georgetown.
You'll also still find some local Whites living in Georgetown and the Upper Northwest, especially among the old money crowd.
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