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I am sure Bosses have the same problem. One reason union are losing ground is their attitude towards having a boss from my experience. Even the workers have gotten tired of working under union bosses that are corrupt. I know I did before I finished college. I got to think of it as the union good ole boy system.
I am sure Bosses have the same problem. One reason union are losing ground is their attitude towards having a boss from my experience. Even the workers have gotten tired of working under union bosses that are corrupt. I know I did before I finished college. I got to think of it as the union good ole boy system.
The good ole boy system is replaced by the "you must know someone" connection system. We have all seen really inept people make it to the top. So it's not the problem with unions, it's a problem with people, and their values, morals, and priorities.
A lot of us wouldn't be able to live with ourselves if we were rotten or false, but many can. Companies reward them for doing this and taking the leaps that we won't.
Unions can protect people, but it seems no one wants them, but things aren't better for working people, blue or white collar, in anyway.
Florida is an "at will" state. Basically, employers don't necessarily have to go through proper protocol (ie: verbal, than written warnings). If they want you gone, they can pretty much call you into their office any time, and fire you on the spot without due cause.
All states are employment at will states, meaning that they all uphold the Doctrine to some degree. To what degree regarding employers' rights to discharge employees, varies by state.
Montana is unique in the degree that it upholds employment at will only when employees are working during a probationary period. Outside of that, employers in Montana must have good cause to discharge employees.
For the rest of the states, the degree at which they uphold the Doctrine and what constitutes good cause under it, depends on the exceptions they recognize.
All states hold the doctrine, some hold it as statutory and others as common-law.
Dynimagelv, while I disagree with you on the ACLU (most of the time, anyway) you're spot-on about "at-will" employment! Give your company 100% and "at-will" won't make any difference to you or the company. The nice thing about "at-will" is that YOU can leave for greener pastures if you so desire without any problems, instead of being bound by some contract. Not going to re-hash the union-vs-non-union thing; I believe they are a mixed blessing. I'm not worried about my employment status, I have no doubt that I'd be one of the last employees they'd let go. I'm not bragging; I just know that I give my employer 100% and the folks in the office know that.
I recently interviewed for a union job. I would've made a LOT more money than I do now. But the other "conditions of employment" were just not right for what I want out of a job at my stage in life. It would've been a different matter had I been 25 years younger...
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Public policy exceptions
U.S. states with a public policy exception. Forty-two U.S. states and the District of Columbia recognize public policy as an exception to the at-will rule. Under the public policy exception, an employer may not fire an employee if it would violate the state's public policy or a state or federal statute.
42 states have a public policy exception, thus 8 states do not. Those 8 states are:
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Maine
Nebraska
New York
Rhode Island
The District of Columbia also has a public policy exception.[
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mkfarnum got to it before me! But every state is an employment-at-will state, the only differences among states is the kinds of exception to at-will that are allowed. But in every state, firing someone for an illlegal discriminatory reason is, well, illegal and not an acceptable exception to at-will.
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Michigan was talking about becoming a "Right To Work" state, which is not much different than the "Guest Workers Program". All it does is draw foreigners to the state to work even though there are plenty of people in that state that's more than willing and able to work.
The unemployment rate for Michigan has skyrocketed.
Actually "right to work" is a good thing. It means you can't be forced to join a union, even in a predominately unionized setting. Here in PA (a non right to work state) teachers and others who choose to not join a union still have to pay all the dues even though they are not members.
well add georgia to the list.my people please, please, do your research. listen, i am here in ga. ga is a reublican state, there nothing here for adults to do, and people mostly migrate downtown for any activity, the beach (not man made) is over 4hrs away. I am from the north and I am leaving to go back to the north. but dont take my word for it, see for yourself.........whatuwanttoknow4@yahoo.com
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