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I took a peak at the supercharger openings / reopenings in North America and it looks like they've got a pretty rapid pace going: https://supercharge.info/changes
Since the beginning of this year, there have been 99 supercharging stations opened in North America (almost all US with some Canada and one in Mexico), 98 of those at 250 kW, most of these at 12 stalls, but some as far up as 48 stalls. Meanwhile, the pipeline for construction starts this year is a bit larger than the openings and the permit filed this year are even greater than the construction starts. It's too bad it's not listed which ones are V4 superchargers, because should also yield less problematic placement/cable length for non-Tesla vehicles as well as higher possible max output though they'd all be listed as 250 kW at this point.
Given the relatively small current number of non-Tesla vehicles there are, how slowly that rollout of each automaker with adapters being sent out after the official access to the network, and the fact that the vast majority of EV charging from now to about a decade from now will be home charging, it seems like the pace of supercharger openings can probably keep up pretty well though there might be some problem corridors depending on how they're targeting these roll out.
I’m on a road trip this coming weekend. I wonder if I’ll see any third-party cars out there.
Not all the current Tesla chargers are open to other manufactures. Adapter or not, if the charger isn't showing as open to non Tesla's on the app, it's limited to only Tesla's. All the newly installed (2024) chargers are open to all EV's as those are receiving government incentives. Only when an older one is converted and approved for subsidy's, they will be open to all EV's.
Now remember, with an adapter, you can use any of the commercial stations or if they have since added a NACS plug to their station, you just hookup as normal (just need that station's access payment method) and pay like all others.
Not all the current Tesla chargers are open to other manufactures. Adapter or not, if the charger isn't showing as open to non Tesla's on the app, it's limited to only Tesla's. All the newly installed (2024) chargers are open to all EV's as those are receiving government incentives. Only when an older one is converted and approved for subsidy's, they will be open to all EV's.
Now remember, with an adapter, you can use any of the commercial stations or if they have since added a NACS plug to their station, you just hookup as normal (just need that station's access payment method) and pay like all others.
I’ve only used Level 2 third party chargers. I will never use a third party level 3, at least not while I’m still a Tesla owner.
This wasn't much of a problem in the first place though since Tesla has had adapters for CCS1 for a while now, plus there's little incentive for Tesla owners to use DC fast chargers that aren't part of the Tesla Supercharger network.
This wasn't much of a problem in the first place though since Tesla has had adapters for CCS1 for a while now, plus there's little incentive for Tesla owners to use DC fast chargers that aren't part of the Tesla Supercharger network.
I can't imagine those will be very popular for a while. Until most cars start coming out with NACS ports, a non-Tesla charger is probably better off with a CCS plug.
Once NACS adaptors are everywhere I can see making a switch. Right now they are close to non-existent
I can't imagine those will be very popular for a while. Until most cars start coming out with NACS ports, a non-Tesla charger is probably better off with a CCS plug.
Once NACS adaptors are everywhere I can see making a switch. Right now they are close to non-existent
Yea, that sounds about right. I think the other charging networks have a conundrum here of when their new deployments should be NACS from the start as well as when they should invest in changing over to NACS. I don't think it'll be very long though since every year has seen more EVs sold than the previous and the base number of non-Tesla EVs in the US isn't all that high.
Tesla is expanding their supercharging network in Maine within the past year. I still wouldn't say facilities are great, but I was just looking in PlugShare, and it's better than it was a year ago. They recently put in a station in midcoast Maine along Rte 1 finally, in Rockland.
That's long overdue - Maine gets lots of tourists, and literally millions of visitors take Rte 1 along the coast through that scenic region every year, but it's been a fast charging desert until now, and you're at least an hour's drive away from the chargers out on I-95, so you'd need to detour for over 2 hrs to get a charge until now - which would not only be super inconvenient, it would lose plenty of electrons on the detour to get more electrons :-(. There is hope.
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