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Old 04-10-2023, 01:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NewMexicoCowboy View Post
I know working is good but would you be happy making 25 cents per hour if you were in their shoes?I just think every American needs to be paid at least the federal min wage.
I think some of these people just enjoy being needed and having a job. Money probably doesn't mean a lot to them because they don't fully grasp the concept of money.
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Old 04-10-2023, 01:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Molossia
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I think some of these people just enjoy being needed and having a job. Money probably doesn't mean a lot to them because they don't fully grasp the concept of money.
Thats true.
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Old 04-10-2023, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Goodwill has disabled employees that make far less than the min wage.Disabled people dont have to be paid the min wage in America in some cases.
I would like actual REAL sites that say such.
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Old 04-10-2023, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Over 200 grand is still a lot of money compared to their lowest paid disabled workers who are only making a few cents an hour.I dont like Salvation Army either for my own personal reasons.
236K for a CEO is nothing though. I know people working as Senior Directors making that much. It would be very hard to attract any CEO at a lower salary. I've never been a CEO but I've been higher up in an org and as you get closer to the top the more stress you take on, more hours you work, and the more impactful your own decisions are. I think 236K is very fair, even for a not for profit who actually has brick and mortar locations like Goodwill does. Compare to Susan G Koman who doesn't have "sales" and pays their CEO over $600k through donations. To me, that puts it into perspective.
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Old 04-10-2023, 03:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Molossia
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236K for a CEO is nothing though. I know people working as Senior Directors making that much. It would be very hard to attract any CEO at a lower salary. I've never been a CEO but I've been higher up in an org and as you get closer to the top the more stress you take on, more hours you work, and the more impactful your own decisions are. I think 236K is very fair, even for a not for profit who actually has brick and mortar locations like Goodwill does. Compare to Susan G Koman who doesn't have "sales" and pays their CEO over $600k through donations. To me, that puts it into perspective.
I know its not up to me but I would be sort of fine with Goodwill CEO making much more than that if every single goodwill employee at least made 7.25 an hour including the disabled ones.I dont like big charities because a lot of the time very little of your donation goes to actually helping people.Most of the donation go to overhead in a lot of cases and I dont like that and I will never give to a charity like that.
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Old 04-10-2023, 03:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Molossia
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I would like actual REAL sites that say such.
The U.S. Department of Labor site says it in the submin wage section.It says that people whose productive capacity is diminished due to disablity dont have to be paid min wage but they need a special certificate to do that.I dont mean to be smart but a quick google search turns up a ton of results on disabled workers being paid below min wage from reputable sites.
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Old 04-12-2023, 07:08 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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We donate to whoever will take it. Our closest is a truck in a strip-mall parking lot, but they will not take anything big, and are somewhat picky about certain goods. About 6 miles away is a big Value Village retail store that accepts anything. Sometimes there is a 3-4 car backup waiting to unload, so we try to go at quit times. They are "for profit" but the only ones that take everything. I don't know of any Goodwill around here, but I have no prejudice against them.
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Old 04-12-2023, 07:31 AM
 
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I know its not up to me but I would be sort of fine with Goodwill CEO making much more than that if every single goodwill employee at least made 7.25 an hour including the disabled ones.I dont like big charities because a lot of the time very little of your donation goes to actually helping people.Most of the donation go to overhead in a lot of cases and I dont like that and I will never give to a charity like that.
Per Indeed, all Goodwill employees make at least minimum wage.
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Goodwill-...0Specialist%20

Well, on further research, some disabled employees make less than minimum wage, but they work in sheltered work shops. They're not the typical employee when you walk in a store. And the disabled employees are covered under U.S. federal law since 1938. Section 14 (c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act, which allows for subminimum compensation.

BUT...not ALL of the Goodwills pay less than minimum to disabled employees. There are 7 states that require ALL Goodwill employees to receive at least minimum.

Long story short...the issue is more complicated than "Goodwill doesn't pay their employees enough."
https://themighty.com/topic/disabili...-disabilities/

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Old 04-12-2023, 07:56 AM
 
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Idk about that:

https://adap.ua.edu/uploads/5/7/8/9/..._its_legal.pdf

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One of the nation's best-known charities is paying disabled workers as little as 22 cents an hour, thanks to a 75-year-old legal loophole that critics say needs to be closed.
Goodwill Industries, a multibillion-dollar company whose executives make six-figure salaries, is among the nonprofit groups permitted to pay thousands of disabled workers far less than minimum wage because of a federal law known as Section 14 (c).
Here's what Goodwill has to say about it:

https://www.goodwill.org/about-the-s...e-certificate/
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Old 04-12-2023, 08:10 AM
 
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Yeah...when you start looking into it, it's all a little more complicated than it seems on the surface.
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