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Well, on further research, some disabled employees make less than minimum wage, but they work in sheltered work shops. They're not the typical employee when you walk in a store. And the disabled employees are covered under U.S. federal law since 1938. Section 14 (c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act, which allows for subminimum compensation.
BUT...not ALL of the Goodwills pay less than minimum to disabled employees. There are 7 states that require ALL Goodwill employees to receive at least minimum.
I was talking about the Goodwill workers working in the sheltered workshops.I apologize that I was not clear enough but I think the workers in the sheltered workshops deserve to paid the min wage in all 50 states.
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I think a lot of people prefer to support a local charity/thrift shop.
Goodwill is local. Each region's Goodwill affiliate is an independent 501c3.
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I think it would be nice if the higher up corporate officials were doing it less for their own monetary profit and more for the mission of the charity.
Why should nonprofit executives (or employees) earn less than executives (or employees) at for-profit organizations? The CEO of the local Goodwill here - a $65 million organization - earns around $210,000. He manages employees, employment programs, retail stores, and other operations in a 30-county area. I doubt you'd find a for-profit CEO doing similar work for that salary.
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I thought everyone knew that Goodwill is not a charity. It is a for-profit business.
Incorrect. Goodwill and its affiliate organizations are 501c3 registered nonprofit organizations.
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I dont like big charities because a lot of the time very little of your donation goes to actually helping people.Most of the donation go to overhead in a lot of cases and I dont like that and I will never give to a charity like that.
That's another misconception. Let me guess - you heard that some fly by night or copycat organization uses only 25 percent of its budget for programming, and you now think that applies to "most" charities. Or you hear about a charity that has no direct service programming, perhaps concentrating on advocacy or research, and you think that applies to "most" charities, too. Or you hear this information from someone who doesn't understand nonprofit finances. Very common misconceptions.
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I think the workers in the sheltered workshops deserve to paid the min wage in all 50 states.
Part of the compensation for employees in sheltered workshops is the intensive job coaching that they need to complete the work assigned to them, meals they're served, transportation, and other benefits they receive while on the job. Employees in supported employment - the disabled people you see working at Walmart and other sites external to the job program itself - also receive job coaching, but it's not as intensive.
Goodwill is local. Each region's Goodwill affiliate is an independent 501c3.
Why should nonprofit executives (or employees) earn less than executives (or employees) at for-profit organizations? The CEO of the local Goodwill here - a $65 million organization - earns around $210,000. He manages employees, employment programs, retail stores, and other operations in a 30-county area. I doubt you'd find a for-profit CEO doing similar work for that salary.
Incorrect. Goodwill and its affiliate organizations are 501c3 registered nonprofit organizations.
That's another misconception. Let me guess - you heard that some fly by night or copycat organization uses only 25 percent of its budget for programming, and you now think that applies to "most" charities. Or you hear about a charity that has no direct service programming, perhaps concentrating on advocacy or research, and you think that applies to "most" charities, too. Or you hear this information from someone who doesn't understand nonprofit finances. Very common misconceptions.
Part of the compensation for employees in sheltered workshops is the intensive job coaching that they need to complete the work assigned to them, meals they're served, transportation, and other benefits they receive while on the job. Employees in supported employment - the disabled people you see working at Walmart and other sites external to the job program itself - also receive job coaching, but it's not as intensive.
I just think that anybody who works an hour for a business should be paid with 7.25 dollars in money not intensive job coaching but thats just me.I heard the 25 percent like figure from mainstream news media.I am not familiar with Goodwill style social service non-profit finances but I am more familiar of the non-profit finances for my part of the industry.
Goodwill is local. Each region's Goodwill affiliate is an independent 501c3.
Why should nonprofit executives (or employees) earn less than executives (or employees) at for-profit organizations? The CEO of the local Goodwill here - a $65 million organization - earns around $210,000. He manages employees, employment programs, retail stores, and other operations in a 30-county area. I doubt you'd find a for-profit CEO doing similar work for that salary.
Incorrect. Goodwill and its affiliate organizations are 501c3 registered nonprofit organizations.
That's another misconception. Let me guess - you heard that some fly by night or copycat organization uses only 25 percent of its budget for programming, and you now think that applies to "most" charities. Or you hear about a charity that has no direct service programming, perhaps concentrating on advocacy or research, and you think that applies to "most" charities, too. Or you hear this information from someone who doesn't understand nonprofit finances. Very common misconceptions.
Part of the compensation for employees in sheltered workshops is the intensive job coaching that they need to complete the work assigned to them, meals they're served, transportation, and other benefits they receive while on the job. Employees in supported employment - the disabled people you see working at Walmart and other sites external to the job program itself - also receive job ctoaching, but it's not as intensive.
Would you want to work for about .25 cents per hour if you were in their shoes?I heard the Salvation Army pays some of its people pennies an hour.I would say Salvation Army is hardly a fly-by-night charity.Granted, I know some of the workers are happy making .25 cents per hour since it gives them something to do.I was partly going by pass through rates for churches because I heard only about a penny or so makes it to the poor out of every dollar donated so I would just rather not donate to them but dont get me wrong I know some Charities have a high pass through rate.Also I am biased towards Goodwill because they send t-shirts to Africa which puts African textile companies out of business which worsens poverty in Africa.Also I am biased towards goodwill is because I dont believe in charity.I know there are lots of good charities out there that alllocate their resources wisely and dont spend too much of the donations but I just dont want to take the time to investigate every charity.I would rather just say no to avoid any risk of getting taken for a ride.
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Unfortunately, Goodwill prices here went up on July 2, keeping pace with inflation everywhere and for everything. I went to buy a bra - normally $1.69 - only to be charged over $3 for it (I canceled the sale). On the other hand, I managed to talk the clerk into counting a dress ($7) as a beach cover ($3), so that was a win! Not everything has gone up, though, so check prices carefully at the register (some signs have not yet been changed). However, as I just recently discovered, you can shop on Sundays and get clothes with a "color of the week" tag for just 99 cents if you're not too picky about taking leftovers. What fun! I still love my Goodwill.
I was talking about the Goodwill workers working in the sheltered workshops.I apologize that I was not clear enough but I think the workers in the sheltered workshops deserve to paid the min wage in all 50 states.
I am not a fan of goodwill for many reasons. However, I spent my career helping people with disabilities obtain employment. If you are so disabled that you can only work in a sheltered workshop these places would go broke paying minimum wage.
The clients need intensive job coaching, assistance with many tasks, constant supervision, etc. These workshops provide a place for people with severe disabilities to go everyday and have others to socialize with. The social benefits are priceless.
Well, when they price Dollar Tree items at $4.99, Goodwill kinda brings it on themselves.
They can price their inventory however they want, I will not buy wildly-overpriced items and this practice makes me think less of the store. And yeah, hitting me up for donations when I pay for my stuff, forget it, especially with the gougy pricing.
I just spent a very enjoyable Sunday exchanging some items (I also love that they allow this, no questions asked, for up to ten days; at Salvation Army "all sales are final") and taking advantage of the Color of the Week 99 Cent Sale on clothing. Found ten items - pants, shorts, tops, even a swimsuit and bra - for an exchanged $10. A guilt-free shopping spree! My favorite Goodwill, which has the best stuff, is always neat and tidy, and even gathers items with that color tag each Sunday and places them on the ends of the racks to make bargain hunting easier. I noticed totes/purses have gone up 50 cents... But otherwise, no complaints!
For those touting the "color of the week" special at their Goodwill, be aware that is not found at all Goodwills. It depends on the location.
Our local Goodwill never has any discounts on anything and the prices are laughably high. I shop at the Salvation Army where the prices are a lot lower and they do have color tag specials to clear out older inventory each week.
I will give Goodwill credit for it's exchange policy, especially on electronic type items. The Salvation Army needs to adopt that policy as well.
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