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Old 03-26-2024, 01:32 AM
 
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Agreed, saying that I or anyone else commits a felony every day is ludicrous and is off topic anyway..
This is a position I notice defenders of illegal immigration often take.. which is making the issue a personal, moral referendum.

They don't like staying on issue.. debating the issues of how illegal, lawless immigration is draining social services, housing availability, importing unvetted criminals and contagious disease, etc. It just becomes how (they smugly believe) any opposition to illegal immigration reveals immorality and bigotry.
I encounter this over & over, where if someone is concerned about lawless, overwhelming immigration.. they have their concerns dismissed/attacked as just immoral bigotry. It's a shame when we can't have good faith political negotiations on border security. And no one will convince me it is immoral or hypocritical to want an orderly, well regulated immigration system.
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Old 03-26-2024, 07:24 AM
 
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Islamism makes up 75 per cent of the counter-terrorism caseload, yet for too long we have shied away from acknowledging the true nature of this threat.


at one time we had a government official that claim maybe we need to look into this a little better. and he was attach, threaten and pretty much ran out of his position by the media and woke karens
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Old 05-03-2024, 07:33 PM
 
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90% of shootings in Sweden are carried out by people with foreign backgrounds, report claims

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According to research done by newspaper Dagens Nyheter, 90 out of the 100 offenders and suspected offenders have at least one foreign-born parent, the vast majority having roots in the Middle East and North Africa.

Elsewhere in Sweden, there are issues not just with ordinary crime, but with terrorism - resulting in a terror level currently set at 'elevated'.

Police say at least 300 Swedes have gone to Syria and Iraq for training as jihadis.
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Old 05-03-2024, 07:38 PM
 
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Islamism makes up 75 per cent of the counter-terrorism caseload, yet for too long we have shied away from acknowledging the true nature of this threat.


at one time we had a government official that claim maybe we need to look into this a little better. and he was attach, threaten and pretty much ran out of his position by the media and woke karens
We need to face up to reality or we are doomed as a nation. Israel is showing what to do. Win by winning, not by palaver.
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Old 05-15-2024, 02:31 AM
 
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Lots of stupidity on the first page, I didn't read the other 19 pages because I would have got brain damage. So I will post what I am about to post and link it with historical fact.

Global multi culturalism started with the European empires - the British, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch, the Portuguese - they brought their cultures, their languages and their ways of life to other cultures and made them assimilate - this is why there are billions of people around the world that speak English - is multi culturalism a failure? No, the British Empire was one of the most successful endeavours in history, did you know there was no such thing as Australian, Canadian, Rhodesian or Indian nationality up until 1948? You didn't? That's because everyone was BRITISH! Didn't matter what colour you were or what part of the red coloured globe you came from - you were a British subject of the King! Multi-culturalism didn't start 10 years ago or whenever you all started getting upset by it, so who do you think is to blame? YOU - YOU'RE TO BLAME! If you are sat in America whinging about Mexicans - do you think the native peoples of where you are sat want YOU there? Course they don't! Do you think you have more rights than a Mexican of indigenous roots to 'go back to where they came from?' course you don't! Most Mexicans are peoples of the Americas - I doubt most of you can say the same.
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Old 05-15-2024, 05:56 AM
 
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Lots of stupidity on the first page, I didn't read the other 19 pages because I would have got brain damage. So I will post what I am about to post and link it with historical fact.

Global multi culturalism started with the European empires - the British, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch, the Portuguese - they brought their cultures, their languages and their ways of life to other cultures and made them assimilate - this is why there are billions of people around the world that speak English - is multi culturalism a failure? No, the British Empire was one of the most successful endeavours in history, did you know there was no such thing as Australian, Canadian, Rhodesian or Indian nationality up until 1948? You didn't? That's because everyone was BRITISH! Didn't matter what colour you were or what part of the red coloured globe you came from - you were a British subject of the King! Multi-culturalism didn't start 10 years ago or whenever you all started getting upset by it, so who do you think is to blame? YOU - YOU'RE TO BLAME! If you are sat in America whinging about Mexicans - do you think the native peoples of where you are sat want YOU there? Course they don't! Do you think you have more rights than a Mexican of indigenous roots to 'go back to where they came from?' course you don't! Most Mexicans are peoples of the Americas - I doubt most of you can say the same.
First off this forum is about illegal immigration and that is what we object to. Becoming multi-cultural via illegal immigration is unacceptable. The reason we have legal immigration in measured numbers is so that our country can retain it's identifying culture, language and demographics and keep our population numbers intact. Multi-culturalism when there are two our more competing groups for dominance just doesn't work. Different cultures in low numbers within a country is not the problem.

American citizens of all stripes have more rights than Mexicans or anyone else here illegally and rightly so!
Mexicans are also of Spanish descent by the way. One's ancestry has nothing to do with our modern day immigration laws anyway it's about being here lawfully or being a citizen of the U.S.

Mexicans are people of Mexico. No one can claim a whole continent they can only claim rights in their own countries that they are citizens of.

I just have to laugh at those of you living in long ago past and using that as an excuse for Mexicans to enter our country illegally. It's about as lame and stupid as it can get! The Amerindian's ancestors migrated here just like anyone else when there were no immigration laws, no established country or government and everyone had a right to migrate here hundreds of years ago. Get a grip, will you?
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:32 AM
 
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First off this forum is about illegal immigration and that is what we object to. Becoming multi-cultural via illegal immigration is unacceptable. The reason we have legal immigration in measured numbers is so that our country can retain it's identifying culture, language and demographics and keep our population numbers intact. Multi-culturalism when there are two our more competing groups for dominance just doesn't work. Different cultures in low numbers within a country is not the problem.

American citizens of all stripes have more rights than Mexicans or anyone else here illegally and rightly so!
Mexicans are also of Spanish descent by the way. One's ancestry has nothing to do with our modern day immigration laws anyway it's about being here lawfully or being a citizen of the U.S.

Mexicans are people of Mexico. No one can claim a whole continent they can only claim rights in their own countries that they are citizens of.

I just have to laugh at those of you living in long ago past and using that as an excuse for Mexicans to enter our country illegally. It's about as lame and stupid as it can get! The Amerindian's ancestors migrated here just like anyone else when there were no immigration laws, no established country or government and everyone had a right to migrate here hundreds of years ago. Get a grip, will you?
Laws and legality doesn't make something just or that can give you a moral highground - because the apartheid regime was made up of laws and legality, so was the Nazi regime in Germany - you were able to abuse Jews in the street and smash their shops up - it was legal! So all that abuse must have been OK because they didn't break any laws... oh, hang on!

American citizens don't have 'more rights' than Mexican citizens - oh, you mean in the states? Why do you think you have so much illegal immigration from Mexico? Is it because they're coming to well paid employ and to work that local people are too fat and lazy to do? So, who's fault is that then? If you don't want to pick oranges and don't want to fix roofs or dig ditches then Manuel from Merida will - is that his fault or is it the people who employ them and the people who refuse to do the work because they think they're too good to work those jobs?

The borders of countries are man made, Mexico and the United States are man made creations, their borders do not exist except as a political construct and can change or disappear at will - ask the people of East Germany or Yugoslavia whereas the people of Mexico are already on their land, most Americans are from a land called Europe, you will always be guests on the land you are sat on in at the moment and you have no moral right to complain about anyone else coming in and taking it off you - you can't steal off a thief.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:53 AM
 
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The borders of countries are man made, Mexico and the United States are man made creations, their borders do not exist except as a political construct..the people of Mexico are already on their land, most Americans are from a land called Europe, you will always be guests on the land you are sat on in at the moment and you have no moral right to complain about anyone else coming in and taking it off you - you can't steal off a thief.
Hi.. I find this to be a very flawed claim. That Mexicans have a more credible claim to North America than Americans.. based on your claim that Americans are too European(?)
Mexicans speak Spanish, a European language.. They're predominantly Catholic, a religion imported from Europe, and genetically Mestizos possess White Spanish blood.. so you're only claim left could be that the Indian blood within Mestizos give them eternal possession of North America, correct?
But Mayans etc never controlled Virginia or Maine or Ohio etc. So how do you reconcile that reality with your claim that modern Mexicans are entitled to all of North America?
It doesn't make sense to suggest that Central Americans have an eternal claim over all of 'stolen' North America.. and realistically, modern Mexico is just as European in its cultural foundations as the US.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:54 AM
 
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Laws and legality doesn't make something just or that can give you a moral highground - because the apartheid regime was made up of laws and legality, so was the Nazi regime in Germany - you were able to abuse Jews in the street and smash their shops up - it was legal! So all that abuse must have been OK because they didn't break any laws... oh, hang on!

American citizens don't have 'more rights' than Mexican citizens - oh, you mean in the states? Why do you think you have so much illegal immigration from Mexico? Is it because they're coming to well paid employ and to work that local people are too fat and lazy to do? So, who's fault is that then? If you don't want to pick oranges and don't want to fix roofs or dig ditches then Manuel from Merida will - is that his fault or is it the people who employ them and the people who refuse to do the work because they think they're too good to work those jobs?

The borders of countries are man made, Mexico and the United States are man made creations, their borders do not exist except as a political construct and can change or disappear at will - ask the people of East Germany or Yugoslavia whereas the people of Mexico are already on their land, most Americans are from a land called Europe, you will always be guests on the land you are sat on in at the moment and you have no moral right to complain about anyone else coming in and taking it off you - you can't steal off a thief.
Go ahead and break laws you call unjust then and see where it gets you! Immigration laws are in place to protect our own citizens regardless of their race or ethnicity. It has nothing to do with taking the moral high ground it's a law issue! Go ahead and complain to our government then not innocent Americans who are merely obligated to obey and respect our immigration laws.

WTH does the Nazi regime have to do with having immigration laws of whom legal immigrants are allowed into our country from everywhere? That doesn't describe Hitler! Are you for real? Every country in the world has immigration laws and internationally recognized borders.

Mexicans nor anyone else has the right to violate our immigration and labor laws. Americans aren't too lazy to do most any job for a fair wage and they did so before millions of cheap illegals flooded our border. These illegals are just as guilty of breaking the law as those who hire them and they both need to be held accountable! Why are Mexicans and other Latinos too lazy to fix their own countries instead of fleeing here like the cowards that they are?

We have unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers to pick oranges or any other crops as they aren't career
jobs for Americans so why do we need illegals to pick crops? As for any other blue-collard job Americans have always done them and still do with honest employers.

Go tell every country in the world that their borders are man made and insignificant! Mexicans are not on their land here in the U.S. Mexico is their land! That's why they are called Mexicans!! As I said, most Mexicans are half Spanish. You know one of those countries in Europe to! Lol!

I have a "legal" right to complain about illegal aliens. It's not a moral issue. It's a law issue!

Now with having said all of that I have had enough of your nonsense. Welcome to my ignore list!
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:54 AM
 
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The UK and the nations which comprise it (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England) have their own cultures. Even the legal systems vary: Scots Law is different from the other legal systems in the UK.

The US has incorporated various traditions: the rodeo, cowboy hat and even ranching trace to New Spain, not the English and British. Even riparian law in the west follows the Spanish model, not the English.

Culture is not static; it never has been.
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