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That's a valid point. Maybe all employment visas and maybe all immigrant visas should be even trades between us and various nations. If one nation employs or takes in 500,000 Americans a year, then we could allow for 500,000 of their citizens a year. If another nation takes in and employs only 2000 Americans, then we would take in and employ 2000 of their citizens.
That would allow for better balance and control. Immigration is certainly not helping our economy at all as it's in the worst shape it's been in for years. It's ridiculous to hire foreigners when Americans need jobs, other than those with truly superior skills but those are rare in reality. And instead of paying for foreigners to move here, businesses could offer scholarships and training programs and give Americans a chance to make it.
Don't forget that the USA has many companies abroad and is selling many of their products. If the USA would start to be so harsh it could be that foreign countries will start to buy stuff from other countries which will course more unemployment. I happen to know that Mars (M&M) and Coca Cola, etc. have companies in a lot of European countries with Americans as CEO's....they hire local people just as foreigners who start a business over here are doing...many Americans have never travelled abroad other than having being in the army and have no clue what is going on abroad and just start to say things that are based on nothing.
My nephew just lost his IT job with IBM in Austin after working there 12 years. Guess someone from India got it. Not Fair!!!
Save our good jobs for our own people. We should stop all those work visa's now, unless there is absolutely no one here who can do the job (and this I don't believe.)
well let see, since you all are 100 percent American, There is no reason why you all should not be educated enough to run your own company and hired immigrants with visas which is less than 4 percent of the population. The reason why most people will be out of a job is because they can not lower yourselves to the same as a immigrants level by cutting grass, working at a fast food place, grocey stores, hard working people who has dreams, they starts business and builds empires that others only dream of. why would you want take that kind of joy away from these people. when the first immigrants came over to America, if they were told to pack up and leave; America would not be the country it is today. well maybe you are too educated for those types of jobs. My parents were immigrants, they did not take anything from you or anyone for that matter ooh your family were not immigrants they might be a Native AMERICANS. sorry you don't understand!! It is not the immigrants fault that you or Thousands of American, Mexican, Haitian, Jamicans, Cuban, Asians, Hispanics and many others are out a job. taken away visas form working immigrants is not the Answer to our problems.
Now giving people visas just to come in work here is not fair, The reason big companies such as IBM hires these people pay rate
Don't forget that the USA has many companies abroad and is selling many of their products. If the USA would start to be so harsh it could be that foreign countries will start to buy stuff from other countries which will course more unemployment. I happen to know that Mars (M&M) and Coca Cola, etc. have companies in a lot of European countries with Americans as CEO's....they hire local people just as foreigners who start a business over here are doing...many Americans have never travelled abroad other than having being in the army and have no clue what is going on abroad and just start to say things that are based on nothing.
That's what I'm saying. Match the visa rates to Americans for each country. That way Americans aren't just always getting the short stick in the deal. Make sure that if 100 foreigners from a particular country are brought in, that 100 Americans have the opportunity to work there.
What's become absurd is that in many foreign nations, it's impossible for Americans to be employed if we should want to be. Yet those nations send millions expecting to be given work or whatever here.
is not impossibly for americans to be employed in other countries
but... is not convinient for americans
example about j1 visa work and travel for entry-level-jobs
Work And Travel participants are
- University students
- they have 2000u$s or more to participated in this program
- they pass a visa interview at the embassy
- they are all from middleclass in their countries
- they have a LIFE in their home country
- they know two or more languages
Example:
- Jobs for WAT students on USA pays 7 or 8 dollars per hour. They work 40 hours-a-week and they do around 1100 or 1300 dollars per month less taxes. Our students pays around 200 or 400 dollars for housing and sometimes they pay theirs foods. The half of the students spent the money doing some tourism in the USA. The objetive of this program is not to make money, is to know USA.
Why americans dont work abroad? (in latin america, estern europe, asia, africa)
- Argentina is one of the most opens countries in the work. We accept people from all world. They can work, study, have fun here. We have not any countries preferences. Is the same for us an American or an Iraki or a Chinese.
- Salaries: For the same entry-level-jobs here we pay around 2 or 2.5 dollars per hour. If you work 40 hours a week you get around 320 or 400 dollars per month. For americans is nothings. They prefered to come here and travel like a tourist. Is cheaper for them.
- Cost of living: Someone sayed "in usa the cost of living is higher than other countries". THATS WRONG. Here we pay around 10 dollars for a cinema ticket (our salary is around 400 dollars per month). We Pay 5 to 10 dollars for eat at MacDonalds (again, our salary is around 400 dollars per month). I have thousands of examples.
Now you understand why americans dont work abroad? (in latin america, estern europe, asia, africa)
A lot of countries offer working programs for students. But economically is not convinient for americans students. They can do more being a tourist than working in a extremely dangerous enviroment like the third world.
Foreigners Rights
"Foreigners in the territory of Argentina have all same civil rights as Argentine citizens; they can run industries, trades and professional businesses; they can own real assets, buy them and sell them; they can sail along rivers and coasts; they can freely practice their religion; they can be witnesses and get married complying with respective laws. They are not obliged to apply for citizenship nor to pay compulsory extraordinary contributions. They can apply for naturalization after residing for two consecutive years in the National Territory; but the application authority can shorten this time favoring the applicant, alleging and proving services in the Argentine Republic."
Argentina has neither restrictions nor quotas for the employment of foreigners, as long as they fulfill immigration regulations, that is, they need to have valid residence permission. Enterprises contracting foreign scientists, professionals or technicians can request an exemption of social security taxes on these employees if they are contracted for less than 2 years.
For more information contact the National Direction of Immigrations of the Ministry of Domestic Affairs.
That's what I'm saying. Match the visa rates to Americans for each country. That way Americans aren't just always getting the short stick in the deal. Make sure that if 100 foreigners from a particular country are brought in, that 100 Americans have the opportunity to work there.
What's become absurd is that in many foreign nations, it's impossible for Americans to be employed if we should want to be. Yet those nations send millions expecting to be given work or whatever here.
You have to be reasonable..some countries are way smaller ....
Some people are better than others ....
What about the companies that have been taken over by Americans, which have been done over the last years...My brother in law worked in The Netherlands for a Dutch company and is taken over by an American company that put all Americans at the top and the Dutch people were layed off...how do you think they feel over there...the company is still there!
Again within 2 years the company is bought by another American company and I'm talking about a pharmaceutical company and again more lay offs over in Europe...He is a lawyer, was working in the US for 2 years (like 15 years ago) than came back and got higher on the ladder.
Meanwhile others were relocated to the USA, left all behind, sold their homes, businesses all because the Dutch company had made a deal with an American company and needed them to relocate...they all did, kids to school in a new country, etc...within 6 months the company changed a lot and almost all were fired on Friday and on Monday they had to figure out what to do...no more visa's, mortgages couldn't be paid for, kids had to be taken out of their new school and they had to move back to Holland and had no homes over there...all while the housing market was plunging and dreams were shattered!
Now all management in Holland is American and the Dutch are without jobs and my brother in law was notified he will loose his job next year...in Holland you can't just fire some one the same way as over here....
My brother in law was crazy about America and really loved it over here, now it is a different story and maybe people should realize that things are different than they seem to be....not all foreigners are taking American away from jobs, they also create jobs...American's oversea take jobs from the native people aswell...think about that before saying things and not knowing about both sides of the story!
Isn't education and/or lack of it the key, combined with lack of basic parenting abilities?
In a world where computer games, cellphone texting and mainstream TV with all its commercials and hype are the "norm" is it any wonder that brainless generations are being raised? The "average" adult these days is totally incapable of writing a simple treatise or expressing an opinion in anything but the basest and most inarticulate terms.
Once in a not too distant bygone age a student was required to write an essay in anything other than math(s) or science and was judged on not only content but grammar. The classics were read as part of the general school curricula and minds were opened up by virtue of the necessity of expression. The learning experience was just that.
And then came the multiple choice questioning concept. Check here, check there, fudge as much as you want. You'll come out with that GED and then you can go on to college which has by now become a total necessity rather than an option because your spongy brain is nowhere near filled and titillated to expand and explore.
How many families actually sit down for dinner every night around a table and discuss what's happening both within the family circle or what's going on in the world in general? I venture to guess not too many when it comes to statistics. TV ads tote KFC or Mac, pizza or (higher end?) Stouffer dinners as being so family orientated in a vain attempt to promote the family theme.
Seems to me that the majority of families in Middle America these days just treat dinnertime as a "catch and run" routine and even those cozy little get-togethers around the TV are geared more towards the basic banality of the TV program than any real interaction between parents and between parents and children.
So many Asians both in times past and even today, coach their children where education is concerned. What's the beef where Americans are concerned? Are you who who want basic immigration procedures curtailed so insecure because of your own inadequacies that you would seek to curtail immigration when the USA was built on immigrants?
Maybe you just should look to the more basic legislation where education is concerned and demand that the senators in your localities address what I think is the major issue. Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is self-defeating. Cheers!
Because in some cases, the US needs better educated and trained labor that is willing to work for a third to half off the going rate, not found in the States.
Not true. Employers are required to pay foreign workers what's called the "prevailing wage" for the geographical area where the worker is to be employed. The prevailing wage is determined by the Department of Labor and must be certified in each individual case. So yeah, foreign workers are indeed paid "the going rate" -- but on top of that, the employer must jump through numerous hoops and pay legal fees. Hiring a foreign worker is actually more expensive for the employer than hiring a similarly qualified American. The sad truth is, there is an extreme shortage of highly qualified American specialists in certain areas -- and unfortunately, the remedy for that is improving education, not flag-waving.
Yes, send them all back home. We will take back US workers in foreign countries.
You would have to be living in a rock to believe in the "Americans are not as educated" BS. There have been many American engineers and scientists losing their jobs to cheaper foreigners. It's all about corporate greed, and it's killing this country.
Yes, send them all back home. We will take back US workers in foreign countries.
You would have to be living in a rock to believe in the "Americans are not as educated" BS. There have been many American engineers and scientists losing their jobs to cheaper foreigners. It's all about corporate greed, and it's killing this country.
And lets take back Coke, Pepsi, Caterpilar, GE, GM and all american fast food chains out from other countries
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