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Old 04-08-2024, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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Exactly.
With this change you will constantly need to let cheap labor to cover gaps.
How is this different from slavery and who will feed arrived millions? Service industry cannot support unlimited number of migrants.

Social media is making world pretty open now... they will be fed BS about equity they must posses. Then what? revolution with expropriation? Haitian representatives already have guts to say that people in rich neighborhoods must open their houses to newcomers. Where did they get this idea? Did people in Haiti just freely moved from house to house?

This is a dangerous trend which must be stopped.

What's happening now ... countries like Venezuela, Cuba and such are just opening their jails and letting people out of the country. Pretty clever.
Then they arrive hear and call for squatting of American homes. "Bad" ICE just arrested one.
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Old 04-08-2024, 11:09 AM
 
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These people are nothing but a burden. Will make things worse, not better.
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Old 04-08-2024, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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I suppose BostonBornMassMade is expecting them to join revolution against oppressors.
What happens in reality Black and Brown folks are also not happy with this influx and they are switching sides.
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Old 04-08-2024, 12:13 PM
 
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He's made it clear that he wants white people to disappear and thinks bringing in millions more from south america and Haiti will make that happen. He's a very insecure person.
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Old 04-08-2024, 02:40 PM
 
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Don't get your hopes up.
We've long since decided that we are going to look for a hotel in RI.
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Old 04-08-2024, 02:52 PM
 
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We badly need to encourage immigration, contrary to the current political hysteria, in order to pay into Social Security and Medicare, saving those systems, and eliminate our current and future shortage of workers. Without young workers, it becomes an even less desirable place to retire.

These migrants are going to continue coming because Haiti is in disarray and only getting worse, and we need bodies. The issue is that the federal government won't just reform the legal immigration process so that it's faster and more appropriate for the modern day.

Massachusetts has simultaneously NIMBY zoned itself into chaos and thusly priced itself into the hairy situation it is currently in. The local leaders are not qualified enough or forward-thinking enough to amend the zoning on their own. I know they bring in some experts to get folks up to speed, but really, the experts ought to be the ones making decisions, not Jim from Melrose, because he has a successful CPA firm and was popular in HS. The federal government has problems with other states that have seemingly less self-inflicted wounds..so they're not coming to save Massachusetts.

Essentially, the state is in a negative feedback loop that is predictable, avoidable, and self-inflicted. Now, they can't handle the migrants they have because they're not getting the support they are asking for from the federal government. And rightfully so; for too long, MA politicians and, more importantly, its citizenry looked down on border states' issues and pretended it wasn't a significant political issue for some states. The disastrous zoning laws and exorbitant cost of everything will make this whole thing difficult and, as we're already seeing, lead to a lean/stagnant period for Massachusetts..one that it's already in.

Per the bolded

This has been addressed many, many times. So, yet once again---Bringing in unskilled, low IQ, functionally illiterate people to pay into SS is nothing but a Ponzi scheme. If you don't know what a Ponzi scheme is all about, do some googling.

What happens when all those people who were brought into this country for the sole purpose of paying into SS when they retire? Do we bring even more people to pay for the previous group's retirement? How many people will be too many for you? 1 billion? 2 billion? Because what you're proposing would lead us down such a road.

"The current political hysteria"? Seriously? Have you even been paying attention as to how negatively these millions of so-called "migrants" have been negatively affecting areas where they've showed up? Haven't you noticed how local officials in such areas have had to scramble to find shelter for these people? Never mind how much money it costs to feed them, give them phones, and debit cards.

Not to forget we know absolutely nothing about any of these "migrants". After all, none of them were vetted. Ponder that.
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Old 04-08-2024, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Wu, Healey, Warren, and Markey are representing the will of the people who voted for them.
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I suppose BostonBornMassMade is expecting them to join revolution against oppressors.
What happens in reality Black and Brown folks are also not happy with this influx and they are switching sides.
There’s no revolution, this is how progress goes, right now we’re in the backlash phase from the right, then we’ll swing a little further to the left and so on. How it always goes . Doesnt matter what black or brown people are happy with.for one- that never matters. But this is just how it’s gonna go to varying levels depending on what letter of the alphabet occupies the Oval Office.

If they wanted to stop this they’d stop it. Full stop, you’d go after scofflaw municipal governments and private employers a like and get folks deported in a timely reliable fashion. Youre the United States you don’t even need Haiti or Venezuela or El Salvador’s approval. You can bully your way into a “solution”.

It’s so far beyond what I want and what you want and what your momma doesn’t want.should be looking at how to make MA less reliant on these methods of population growth to support its aging population in the future. But people would rather complain about things beyond their control now.
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wu, Healey, Warren, and Markey are representing the will of the people who voted for them.
Exactly.

And so is Joe Biden.
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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It’s so far beyond what I want and what you want and what your momma doesn’t want.should be looking at how to make MA less reliant on these methods of population growth to support its aging population in the future. But people would rather complain about things beyond their control now.
Do you realize that people do not have many kids anymore due to the progress too?

European countries have so many benefits for population, yet they are not having many kids.

Many kids (unless you cannot use protection) usually happen to traditional families. Also to rural families... families where women are not very educated. To religions families which cannot use protection.

From progressive left we constantly hear that planet is already overpopulated.

I am not conservative... just my observations from reasonable center with experience of several types of societies.
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