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Ivermectin is not a government approved/licensed drug to treat any virus, human or otherwise. The use of Ivermectin in the treatment of the Covid virus has not been sanctioned/approved by any US government entity, nor by any major US healthcare organization.
Whether one chooses to believe it is a treatment/prophylactic in the treatment of/against Covid is a personal choice, not one supported by medical science.
I have administered Ivermectin many times....to my farm animals that had internal parasites, or as a prophylactic against parasites. Does that mean I should consider using it on myself to treat an internal parasite, much less Covid...not a chance.....it is not approved for such use.
and yet it is still a government approved and licensed drug to treat a bunch of things.
The medication is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, and is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as an antiparasitic agent.
In 2018, ivermectin was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions. It is available as a generic medicine.
You’re mixing apples and oranges. Take anthrax for example. That vaccine was studied for years and inoculations were stopped 3 times over 10 years. 10 years of studies helped frame whether the anthrax vaccine was safe to use.
HHS has happy to put Covid vaccines on that list you’re conflating testing rigor when compared to far more researched vaccines such as polio, measles and malaria. Wait, why are these not on your list?!? That’s odd.
Smallpox studies? Lifetime of studies. Acute radiation “syndrome” treatment is simply a dose of Iodine.
That list is a list of vaccines that the Federal government provides compensation for vaccine injuries. These are diseases that are not as common as say, measles. It has nothing to do with testing rigor. These are diseases that can cause pandemics, but are rare.
Polio and measles vaccines are on a different list. Go look at the links I posted.
Smallpox is on the list because there are still smallpox virus samples stored in the US and Russia, and there are still some people being vaccinated against it. If smallpox had not been eradicated, it would likely be on the common disease list on the VICP site instead of the CICP site.
There is no reliable vaccine for malaria. Researchers are apparently getting closer, bit there is no vaccine yet for general use.
What would you have done for a Covid vaccine? Test it for 20 years? Or just let Covid run its course, killing several million Americans?
I made no comment on likely or unlikely. I made comment on your mistaken use of .005%, which is vanishingly small.
But since you asked, okay. On your sub, let's pretend it got loose. Given its infection rate, 1-2 of your crewmates will probably now die. Is that small, likely, or tolerable to you?
First, they’ve already had COVID and so have the antibodies to fight the virus.
That protection has been shown to be incomplete. Getting vaccinated significantly increases that protection, so why not?
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Two, the vaccine has not gone through the usual long term testing to know the risk of injury, death, or potential of birth defects.
This is a frivolous argument in light of the fact that 243 million Americans have already had at least one vaccination. As a test sample size, that's probably a thousand times the usual size of a long term trial. In other words, it is very well known what the risks are of injury or death from getting vaccinated. It is very low, especially when compared to the risk of death from Covid itself.
and yet it is still a government approved and licensed drug to treat a bunch of things.
The medication is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, and is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as an antiparasitic agent.
In 2018, ivermectin was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions. It is available as a generic medicine.
and yet... it is not approved for covid in the US. It is not a could have, should have, would have, it's not licensed to treat covid....that should be end of story.
The COVID 19 vaccine is not like the others. Do your homework for best results. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/b...hology-results
"Bhakdi/Burkhardt pathology results show 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine"
Well, it is food for thought.
Yes, but there's not much "food" there. From the report:
"Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination; ages 28 to 95)."
A sample size of 15? Some died 6 months later? Ages up to 95? The fact remains, 496 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through December 20, 2021. The percentage of deaths attributed to the vaccine amount to 0.0022%, roughly 2 people out of 1,000. Without the vaccine, the percentage of deaths attributed to Covid would be well more than 10 times that. And currently, unvaccinated people are 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.
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"The estimated underreporting factor for COVID jab injuries in VAERS is between 31 and 100
Although the CDC states "Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines under the most intense safety monitoring program in U.S. history.
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Those that blindly accepted this vaccine, well, I pity them. Choice! Freedom!
Those who accepted the vaccine, especially after millions had been vaccinated without serious side-effects, aren't the blind ones.
I made no comment on likely or unlikely. I made comment on your mistaken use of .005%, which is vanishingly small.
But since you asked, okay. On your sub, let's pretend it got loose. Given its infection rate, 1-2 of your crewmates will probably now die. Is that small, likely, or tolerable to you?
The post I was commenting on said that we are all 'likely to die' from COVID.
1 or 2 out of 150, is NOT "we all are likely to die".
Even if you want to puff up the statistics by lumping together 'deaths with COVID' into the 'deaths from COVID' crowd.
At the beginning of this my state's CDC dude was criticized a lot because he insisted that the daily numbers he wanted to publish should be 'deaths with COVID' [which includes traffic accidents, terminal cancers, and suicides, all dead bodies that when tested show the presence of COVID].
and yet... it is not approved for covid in the US. It is not a could have, should have, would have, it's not licensed to treat covid....that should be end of story.
I never said it was.
A previous poster was insisting that it is not a legal drug allowed to be administered in the USA. That idea is false, it is a legal drug in the USA.
Over 800,000 Americans are dead. That's a lot of dead people regardless of how likely it was that they would die.
Therefore all 350Million of us are going to die from this disease? Is that your contention?
Are you saying that these vaccines will never have any effect?
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