Oregon ends its 72-year ban on pumping your own gasoline (felons, home)

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote

You are right. The labor shortage is actually likely what is driving this change now.

If that is the ONLY thing driving this change, then this is still a depressing place.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by MickIlhenney

Uh, no... We have these in Canada, as well as full serve and self serve only. There are many handicapped people who drive that are incapable of getting out to pump their own gas. Of course, the cost is slightly higher in the full serve lines to pay the gas jockey's wages.



Of course. It's a deep running conspiracy.

Here in Ohio when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s we had gas stations with full and self service pumps. Haven't seen a station like that in decades.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by MickIlhenney

Uh, no... We have these in Canada, as well as full serve and self serve only. There are many handicapped people who drive that are incapable of getting out to pump their own gas. Of course, the cost is slightly higher in the full serve lines to pay the gas jockey's wages.



Of course. It's a deep running conspiracy.

Here in Ohio when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s we had gas stations with full and self service pumps. Haven't seen a station like that in decades.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by robertbrianbush

Here in Ohio when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s we had gas stations with full and self service pumps. Haven't seen a station like that in decades.

And you won't see them in Oregon either for long after this law takes effect. They will just make it so inconvenient to use the full service pumps that people will get tired of waiting and move to the self service pumps. Then they will go back and bribe the politicians again to get rid of full service entirely, on the grounds that no one is using it. This is the gas industry that is pushing this. They are not doing it with the intent of continuing to keep gas station attendants around to pump gas for those customers who want full service. They are doing it with the intent of eliminating those jobs, and they will just like they did in 48 other states.

It will be just like when you go to Walmart, and you have to walk past 50 empty self service checkout stands, to wait in a long line at the one manned checkout stand on the very end.

[StealthRabbit]

There are no full service pumps in Oregon (that I've found in the last 45 yrs).
If you know of any, please inform us, so we can direct people there (who needs, or could benefit from full service).

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

And you won't see them in Oregon either for long after this law takes effect. They will just make it so inconvenient to use the full service pumps that people will get tired of waiting and move to the self service pumps. Then they will go back and bribe the politicians again to get rid of full service entirely, on the grounds that no one is using it. This is the gas industry that is pushing this. They are not doing it with the intent of continuing to keep gas station attendants around to pump gas for those customers who want full service. They are doing it with the intent of eliminating those jobs, and they will just like they did in 48 other states.

It will be just like when you go to Walmart, and you have to walk past 50 empty self service checkout stands, to wait in a long line at the one manned checkout stand on the very end.

Please point out one reference that indicates ANY government entity anywhere in America "Outlawing" full service gas stations.



The free market (i.e. paying public) would gladly make your glorious "pump jockey's" millionaires if the service was deemed valuable. It's not so it won't.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Please point out one reference that indicates ANY government entity anywhere in America "Outlawing" full service gas stations.



The free market (i.e. paying public) would gladly make your glorious "pump jockey's" millionaires if the service was deemed valuable. It's not so it won't.

Again you either have full service or you don't, there is no in between. Nowhere does full service and self service gas coexist. Nowhere.

[MtnSurfer]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Again you either have full service or you don't, there is no in between. Nowhere does full service and self service gas coexist. Nowhere.

Incorrect. In fact, someone in this thread posted that they do have both.

Originally Posted by MickIlhenney

Uh, no... We have these in Canada, as well as full serve and self serve only. There are many handicapped people who drive that are incapable of getting out to pump their own gas. Of course, the cost is slightly higher in the full serve lines to pay the gas jockey's wages.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Again you either have full service or you don't, there is no in between. Nowhere does full service and self service gas coexist. Nowhere.

OK - Then the majority of public must not want that structure, otherwise the free market would provide and the public would gladly pay. It doesn't so they won't - case closed.

[MtnSurfer]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

OK - Then the majority of public must not want that structure, otherwise the free market would provide and the public would gladly pay. It doesn't so they won't - case closed.

I agree with this for the most part. The only exception I could see that Cloudy might be alluding to is, what about handicapped drivers who are unable to pump due to physical conditions/limitations? There could be a case for handicap accessible services being made available for an extra fee. Our Canadian friend said something to that affect.

Originally Posted by MickIlhenney
There are many handicapped people who drive that are incapable of getting out to pump their own gas.

However, if all the other states manage without this, is it really an issue? I mean, its kinda hard to say without understanding ADA type issues a person with physical limitations might face. Maybe most have a family member or friend pump for them if they have someone to do that? I imagine there are a range of handicaps and physical limitations where they can still drive and pump gas, but the later is challenge and may be the limiting factor when determining if still able to drive.

Derek