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The problem is that every John, Sarah, Larry, and Kate thinks they can have a family solely because they have the ability to, but by the time they have kids, and everyone involved realizes they shouldn’t have become parents, there’s no going back.
Also, consider that many of the children of unfit parents exist only due to unintentional pregnancy (they will still act like it was planned out on social media though).
you are correct but that isn't the premise here, I wish all parents would be responsible and realize the grave importance of parenting, but they don't....yes, your right...
I know what you're trying to relate and I posted in the same vein. I didn't mean to say parents couldn't be teachers like the teachers in school. I meant most parents couldn't be teachers to their kids - of anything. Of course, if the people I'm thinking of shouldn't be parents in the first place, then they can't teach their kids anything anyway. Nor do they want to.
no I honestly understand what your saying....but those people will never be helped unless their kids for some reason change the pattern, b/c the parents hand down all their thoughts and beliefs to the kids...so if the parents are unable to keep a house in order, clean as well as the outside, there is a good chance the kids will be the same way.
I want to make it clear, there is no premise in my headline and body of this post...simply saying that parents have a huge responsiblity to their kids and to society, by teaching them to be independent, and ready for the next phase in their lives...
Another thing that parents might want to teach are the ways to relax (and/or raise morale), especially when there is very little around. How no doubt depends on one's culture.....such as those who sung in disaster such as Eastern Flt 401 (Everglades) or the Israeli destroyer Eilat (sunk by Styx missiles 1967). It may also be that if it is non technical then it has more elements serving to relax....and less promoting energy into the technology.
To this latter one, this morning I was writing in my diary and found the rising sun and the beautiful rose/blue dawn to be quite WOW! The rising sun, however, promotes its own limiting factor of when it is time to stop and move on into the day (because the writing room gets flooded with glare). Not so with being on the computer for we can find ways to stay on the computer regardless of what the clock says. A side item to this is that I managed to push off the Net for this post, from eating up precious time then to later when I have the chance.
Back to the diary writing......this week's tip, at the gas pump, by Maria Menounos is about increasing productivity by writing in the morning, 5 pages of a brain dump. Heaven forbid that I should agree with the gas pump equivalent of the supermarket checkout line magazines.....but that is what I do as well though my entries often have more rhyme and reason to them.
Whether diary writing, singing, or other means, one may want to teach their children such easier ways to find peace of mind.....especially when we have such devious means in our perilous world, pushed by unfeeling people who promote their devastating wares with "the first taste is free".
Another thing that parents might want to teach are the ways to relax (and/or raise morale), especially when there is very little around. How no doubt depends on one's culture.....such as those who sung in disaster such as Eastern Flt 401 (Everglades) or the Israeli destroyer Eilat (sunk by Styx missiles 1967). It may also be that if it is non technical then it has more elements serving to relax....and less promoting energy into the technology.
To this latter one, this morning I was writing in my diary and found the rising sun and the beautiful rose/blue dawn to be quite WOW! The rising sun, however, promotes its own limiting factor of when it is time to stop and move on into the day (because the writing room gets flooded with glare). Not so with being on the computer for we can find ways to stay on the computer regardless of what the clock says. A side item to this is that I managed to push off the Net for this post, from eating up precious time then to later when I have the chance.
Back to the diary writing......this week's tip, at the gas pump, by Maria Menounos is about increasing productivity by writing in the morning, 5 pages of a brain dump. Heaven forbid that I should agree with the gas pump equivalent of the supermarket checkout line magazines.....but that is what I do as well though my entries often have more rhyme and reason to them.
Whether diary writing, singing, or other means, one may want to teach their children such easier ways to find peace of mind.....especially when we have such devious means in our perilous world, pushed by unfeeling people who promote their devastating wares with "the first taste is free".
Despite the stated premise this thread got very one-sided very quickly.
Well if you think it did I’m sorry for you because it wasn’t intentional but if you want to see it that way there is nothing I can say or do to change your mind
Giving examples is the only way I know how to explain and I’m a woman and most woman , not all do the housework
I don’t care if you’ve got boys or girls they need to learn from their parents to be independent so they will not chose anyone to take care of them. That is no reason to marry
I'd like to add, there is no reason why you can't get those kids out there to work....my grand daughter manages an eating place and she tells me that some of the kids coming in want to work but a lot of them don't, they stand around and play on their phones....so, another thing to teach kids, if yo want it bad enough you'll work for it and do a good job...take pride in your work.
My grand daughter told me, she had to tell a kid 3 times to go back and clean the bathroom right and fill it up as they are supposed to do....
I've heard a lot of complaints about kids working...parents, you've got to do better, and you should start by having them take part by cleaning up around the house, that when they get up from the table, they take their dishes over to the sink and rinse them and put them in the dishwasher, to make their beds....to clean their rooms, parents need to show up for parent teachers conferences, and they need to take constructive criticism from the teacher as an aid to helping your child instead of taking anything negative about your child personal...everyone makes mistakes, and by darn so do kids....they need guidence....and the teachers need to be backed by the parents.
This thread is going to cover a whole lot of subjects regarding kids....work ethics, helping around the house, marriage, school, etc....
I don't know you, or your children, so this is not directed at anyone...it's simply a discussion, if you want to join in please do....simply food for thought
1 Situation
We had our family dinner last evening, my grand daughter is going to school while working as a manager at a local food and ice cream restaurant while going to school, she is 20 years old.
She is so tired of the kids who show up for a pay check but do not work, they refuse to do side work, she had to tell the one kid to go back in and clean the bathrooms....she said a woman came in at 11:30 a.m. and told her that none of the toilet stalls had toilet paper in them, which meant, the kids the night before, didn't do their job and fill them up. She said this is so unfair to the kids that do work and do a great job...and she feels she shouldn't have to continually watch over them like a mother.
She said, at the end of the night, some of these kids blatenly do not do their side work which makes it harder on her and the other kids who do....
It seems that restaurants all over have the same problem, while they have some kids that are great workers, there are others who refuse to do their job, or refuse to even get out there and work.
2. Stituation
So many wives, not all but a lot of wives complain that their husbands think and believe, if they go to work all day, they should be able to come home and do nothing but sit and allow their wives, who are working, to take care of the kids, shop, do laundry, make dinner, take out the trash, clean, etc....
My suggestion here is this, when you kids are growning up start off by having them make their own beds, and clean up their rooms....when they get up from the table, have them rinse their dishes off and put them in the dishwasher not leave them set on the table or in the sink or even worse, around the living room.
Have them take out the trash, do dishes, teach them to do laundry, run the vacuum, to dust, how to wash up the floors, to grocery shop, let them do it, so they learn, so what if their beds are not done perfectly....as you would do them.
A parents responsibility is to teach their kids to be independent, no co-dependent on mom to do everything. If you are doing everything for them, your creating a monster for the woman he will someday marry.
Same goes for your little girls, they are not dolls to spend money on extremely expensive clothing and teach them they need to label shop....teach them how to look nice but bargin buy clothes...that its more important how they look on the inside, how they treat others, their compassion for others...
Teach kids to be independent, and start young, teach them to be conscientious, to have work etchics and the importance of working together as a team....
I know a lot of you do, do this, but you'd be surprised how many parents do not do this....if both parents are working, the kids can pitch in and help....
example, I have a single mother who is a neighbor, she has 2 sons, one is now 15 and she has yet to teach him to do things when he comes home, he comes home from school, changes and goes outside and comes home for dinner. Never takes the trash out, has no responsiblity what so ever, and we caught him trying to steal change out of cars....give the kid chores to do around the house....so they aren't bored, bored kids will get into trouble....plus grow up believing its the woman's job to do everything....not true...
What I'm saying is, there is something being lost within our communities of young people, if they do get a job, they don't know how to work, or want to work...we as parents, need to work together to change that...
How about starting by expecting the other ADULT in the house to not act like an entitled jerk? There are quite a few years between kids being old enough to do a lot of what you describe (and yes kids should be taught age appropriate ways to be contributing family members) and the person who should be pulling their weight until then is called DAD. If only one parent is shouldering the load at home that’s not going to miraculously correct itself when kids are older. Kids aren’t stupid. If they see Dad doing little to nothing around the house, they’ll feel entitled to do the same.
How about starting by expecting the other ADULT in the house to not act like an entitled jerk? There are quite a few years between kids being old enough to do a lot of what you describe (and yes kids should be taught age appropriate ways to be contributing family members) and the person who should be pulling their weight until then is called DAD. If only one parent is shouldering the load at home that’s not going to miraculously correct itself when kids are older. Kids aren’t stupid. If they see Dad doing little to nothing around the house, they’ll feel entitled to do the same.
my son is a police officer and your absolutely right, all police officers say the same thing, kids need both parents....
We have grown into a society of children in adult bodies, not assuming responsibility, actually shirking it and blaming everyone and everything else....plus kids watch very closely and absorb their parents mannerisms, therefore, whatever they see at home they will act out in public...who was it that once said, whatever you do and say reflects on your parents.
You see a kid in a restaurant acting out, or running around, it's the parents, stop allowing your kids to do whatever they want....you want kids, be a parent....throw all those other toys out the window, b/c what you do know, will be your child's ways when he is grown up....it is up to us to break the chains that bind.
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