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It's vegetation common to mainly lowland areas 23 degrees to 35 degrees N/S latitude, the geographic subtropics. Some of these places share flora in common with lower latitude tropics and some with cooler mid latitude areas but overall there would be unique ecoregions, like the southeastern yellow pine region or southern Californian chaparral.
So it's only based on latitude, not characteristics?
Many species of fern are evolved for “year round growth”. Doesn’t make it “subtropical”.
Plants around here have no chill requirement, but it's not a tropical climate.
Any temperate zone plant that grows year round is on the subtropical spectrum.... you've just been conditioned to think of the natural world as having to follow man-made classification, hence your confusion.
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Plants around here have no chill requirement, but it's not a tropical climate.
Any temperate zone plant that grows year round is on the subtropical spectrum.... you've just been conditioned to think of the natural world as having to follow man-made classification, hence your confusion.
Ok lets settle this subtropical climate is not exactly that. But I do agree that that temperate would be warm even if not subtropical. I my own way I view North Island NZ as pre-tropical oceanic, I view may area as pre-tropical humid subtropical bordering on tropical monsoon. So that pre-tropical in the way I view Köppen emphasizes that it is the warmer side and that year round growing is a possibility within the ranges. That’s how I view it. Infact I created this specific division within Köppen because I believe this reduces arguments. Australia has plenty of pre-tropical subtropical and oceanic, while in US, parts of Europe and parts of Asia, pre-continental is very common, though pre-tropical still exists.
It's vegetation common to mainly lowland areas 23 degrees to 35 degrees N/S latitude, the geographic subtropics. Some of these places share flora in common with lower latitude tropics and some with cooler mid latitude areas but overall there would be unique ecoregions, like the southeastern yellow pine region or southern Californian chaparral.
Well the Köppen typical latitudes of Cfa humid-subtropical is 25-40°, between the tropics 23.5 and 25° it has so many tropical characteristics that climates can easily be tropical, and after 35th parallel in many cases specially northern hemisphere climates still resemble characteristic of it, Europe exceeds even the 40° pretty much, well but above 35° I would agree that it can share boundaries with other climates that are cooler or colder no problem, but I prefer the 40° mark for subtropical climates. I Europe I would go up to 47 or even 48°N finding microclimates, in AUS under 35°S it’s hard, at 37°S or below it’s literally like impossible to find even small microclimates, in South Africa the country ends before the 35th parallel and oceanic climates already present easily, so I give it a 34°S mark, South America in Argentina microclimates up to the 41st parallel, North America coastal is literally tropical starting at 28°N, so up to 42-43° it does, while microclimates in west have shown 46°. Well Hong Kong inside tropics is still Cfa/Cwa so it is obviously even below tropics so the 25° would not apply, but in US 26-28°N is tropical borderline so it literally shows that it doesn’t fit the 25° line even. With all that mix up 25-40°N is most reliable with
North Carolina has a more typical subtropical climate like Eastern North America or East Asia. New Zealand has a very mild, and rarer version of a subtropical climate. Neither one is more subtropical. We may need Subtropical oceanic, and Subtropical continental climate zones though.
North Carolina has a more typical subtropical climate like Eastern North America or East Asia. New Zealand has a very mild, and rarer version of a subtropical climate. Neither one is more subtropical. We may need Subtropical oceanic, and Subtropical continental climate zones though.
New Zealand is just oceanic, I don’t know why people don’t understand.
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