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My company (IT field) has mostly remote workers in several countries. They have been shutting down office space to save money and have nearly everyone work remote. I've been fully remote for over a decade. It works for me.
Make no mistake: the back-to-the-office push is coming from middle management who was revealed to be pretty useless during the pandemic when there were no captive warm bodies to micromanage with unnecessary oversight, meetings, and "team building" exercises.
Absolutely. My company is so top and middle-heavy, it's ridiculous.
Permanent WFH now. When Covid hit, I was able to supply upper management with the numbers as to how much they would save by closing the rented office space, so that was that. The others in the office were 100% in on WFH.
What about at smaller companies, though? In many cases, you do actually work with your co-workers if you are on-site.
I think it makes more sense at smaller companies but at big companies not much sense. Today I was on a Zoom call with two of my coworkers who sit near me and a few people in California. The next call was with some vendors in India. All of that could have been done at home. The only benefit I see of being in the office is a bit of small talk during working hours.
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Another part is the industry built around those businesses. Restaraunts, bars, parking, etc are all losing money with wfh.
Good riddance. With the increased cost of everything, I rarely if ever go out to eat lunch anymore at work.
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My company is national and I used to report to the local office. It seems like my old team who is local is only requiring new hires since 2022 to work from the office, anyone who was already employed during the transition to home from the office during the pandemic can still work from home full time if they so desire.
Within the same company, my new team of 10 is spread out all over the country so we don't have a home base. But I do go to the local office once or twice a week to get out of the house. I don't work with anyone at that office, but there's plenty of room and private hotel offices have nice views and are nice and quiet. I will usually go in after 9AM when traffic is lighter so it only takes me 20 minutes to drive in.
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We've been "encouraged" to be in the office 2 or 3 days a week, but it's not really enforced. Often if I need to get focused work done, I'll go into the office because there's usually only a couple of people there and it can be less distracting than my own house. So much for all of that in office collaboration.
Same here, I don't go into the office to collaborate with anyone. I go in because the wife and kids are at home and can be very distracting even with closed doors. Even if I am home alone, house chores/projects distract me from work so it is better for me to leave the house a few times a week.
Another part is the industry built around those businesses. Restaraunts, bars, parking, etc are all losing money with wfh.
This is true, but for some reason I don't see them as having a whole lot of political pull. The big landlords - they can get WSJ and Business Insider to post articles describing the blissful nature of the commute ("liminal time") and the necessity of water cooler talk for happiness & prosperity.
If you can run the place using, say, 20% of your office space - that's savings waiting to happen.
Part of the push to end WFH in the public debate is from people who are heavily invested in business property and who stand to lose billions.
Too bad for them. Not all investments can be winners.
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