Anyone here have a zirconium (non metal) implant? (molar, crown, mouth)
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I don't think he'll help out at all. He's in it for the money, and won't believe me anyhow. I need a new dentist. I'm just stuck for now until my symptoms get worse or my teeth under the bridge fail. Then I'm getting them pulled. Tired of wasting money on these teeth... especially when I experience reactions like these. Wake up every morning and my gums burn, dry tight throat, tiny painful bumps on my inner lip where my crowns are, and this terrible, awful, nasty, disgusting sour taste that won't go away.. it's depressing.
I’ve had the burning bitter metallic taste plus irritated tongue for 2 years now which I associate with my zirconia crown. My dentist says it’s impossible to have allergy to zirconia. Please follow up and let us know how the switch to gold goes. We also need to hound our dentists to submit adverse reaction data to whatever database they report to or dentistry in general will continue to deny the existence of allergy to this metal.
Dentists are not trained properly in allergies. My allergist said he was surprised that more people didn't have allergic reactions because these dental materials are foreign substances and the body is supposed to have reactions to foreign substances. I have had reactions to emax and zirconia crowns because they have a veneer of lithium disilicate ceramic. You can be allergic to ANYTHING basically. There's a new material that is pure zirconium oxide called BruxZir and I have no problems with that.
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I don't think he'll help out at all. He's in it for the money, and won't believe me anyhow. I need a new dentist. I'm just stuck for now until my symptoms get worse or my teeth under the bridge fail. Then I'm getting them pulled. Tired of wasting money on these teeth... especially when I experience reactions like these. Wake up every morning and my gums burn, dry tight throat, tiny painful bumps on my inner lip where my crowns are, and this terrible, awful, nasty, disgusting sour taste that won't go away.. it's depressing.
Try the new BruxZir before giving up on your teeth. I had the same thing you did for 10 years. I let a bridge fail and lost a tooth. I used to chew gum and stick it to the roof of my mouth to kill the taste and burning from the bad bridge.
The allergy doctor is unable to get samples of the glue used by my old dentist on the temporary crown and the glues used on the permanent crown. The dentist says she can't provide one of the unopened tubes, as she thinks it was likely the glue in that particular tube that might have caused the alleged reaction I had of dry mouth and loss oSf taste, not the brand of glues used in their opinion, so the old dentist is refusing any samples to allow for allergy testing. I would consider the option if I could of buying a sample of both glues from the old dentist yet I have not asked that yet. Right now the allergy testing is blocked--unless I get a sample of the glue, i have wasted my money.
I have considered ordering the $325 kit, report, and paper from biocomplabs.com as there is lab 2 hours away that I could take it to have the blood drawn etc and have then ship it off. Yet I don't have that money at the moment to do that.
In January of 2020 about two days before my teeth cleaning appointment at my old dentist, the dentist texted me that they were cancalling my appointment due to my complaints about possible allergey issues with the crown put in and to seek care elsewhere. The old dentist also said that they would never put another crown on me again. I was due for a second one according to their recommendation. I just wanted my teeth cleaned, nothing more from them. The canceled me as a patient.
I was lucky to find an opening at the 5th (new) dentist that same date of the canceled appointment and got my teeth cleaned. The new dentist however found in his interpretation that there was a "gap" in the crown that was in my mouth; that he was going to put a watch on it for future decay; that to get the gap fixed I would need to have the dentist who put it in take care of it, that he would provided copies of the xrays for that toothed crown to the old dentist if necessary.
I dropped by the old dentist on the January middle holiday, just a few days after I had my teeth cleaned by the new dentist and nicely informed them I had found another dentist, etc and wondered if she could look at the crown to determine if the gap was there on the crown that the new dentist said was there. I realized there could be interpretational differences on xrays and just needed to know. They said they would call for the xrays. The old dentist though wanted to talk to the new dentist about his findings and to ask for the xrays at the same time.
Here it is March 4, nearly two months and still no word. She can't get the new dentist to give her xray copies that indicate a possible gap in the crown.
The new dentist at one point when he talked to the old dentist on another date was now saying the crown didn't need replacing, implying there was no gap. Yet the new dentist had told me there was a gap and he would not be able to fix it without charging me all over again for it since he did not install it.
I just called the old dentist today to find out the status--is there a gap or not? If there is a gap, the old dentist said she would credit me what I had to pay out of pocket for the crown as they would not replace it. I just want to know which one is right--the old dentist or the new dentist.
I go to my gum specialist dentist (the one that shares the teeth cleaning) in mid April and I have the next cleaning with the new dentist 3 months after that already scheduled. I guess I could ask the gum specialist if I have no heard anything from the old dentist by then to look at the crown and see if there is or is not a gap from his view.
Iam trying to take good care of my teeth and flossing, brushing stuff within 18 hours of eating to avoid the plaque/tartar from building up. Once any food gets in the alleged gap and causes decay, then at some point the crown might need replacing according to the new dentist.
I still want to try the biocomplab.com site when I can get the money to do that or try to purchase samples of it, depending on which is cheaper.
Right now I feel I am getting the run around. My old dentist clearly does not believe I had type of allergy to the crown work. Yet I heard their office say they supported allergy testing when I called them yet then they bunker down and refuse to give glue samples.
The new dentist did surprise me with his other findings from the new xrays. The one tooth in the topright rear corner had a starting cavity which he put down as a watch and see type whiich the old dentist dismissed as not worth looking at or putting on as a watch and see. Also, the lower right corner where the old dentist said I needed a second crown (which is not currently hurting me at all) the new dentist here said it was not a leaking cavity, yes it was an older cavity that was filled yet it was not leaking and needed no work done to it at this time. By the new dentist's viewpoint, he basically saved me from getting a second crown which I really did not needed so being cancelled by my old dentist could be a blessing as it has saved me from unnecessary pain and suffering.
No more crowns for me. I would have a tooth pulled, or put up with the pain with clove oild, etc or ultimately wear dentures.
I am a bit disappointed with dentists in general. I may have approached all of this wrong yet I went to the allergy doctor and paid $328 dollars for an office visit as I knew the dentist could not do that at her office. I did call my old dentist about possible allergy to the crown yet at that time she did not request I come in to have her look at the crown to see if there were issues she could address to make it better. Why didn't she ask me to come in?
So I am out money for an allergy doctor. Still trying to get the old dentist to connect with the new dentist to see the crown xrays where an alleged gap is shown, so I have some verification--not placing blame--just I need to know. If nothing else maybe I can get the gum specialist to look the crown over and give his opinion to gap or not to gap that is the question.
My only option, other than to give up, is to do the biolab blood test and have the results sent to the allergy doctor--that is a viable option if I can get the money together yet that is an extra $325 dollars , plus gas to to the lab place two hours away and gas back home--then the lab place could sent the test kit off to whereever and then they would send the results back to the allergy docotr for me to come by and she could give me the results of it. Either that or purchase samples of the glues used by the old dentist for more than $325.
I am going to sent this if I am able. No more dental repair work for me unless I am in so much pain that I can't tolerate it.
AVOID Serum Compatibility testing it is PURE QUACKERY. I wasted lots of money on it.
Me again, just updating.. I'm going to a new dentist in a couple of days, hopefully they'll be able to tell me if it looks like an allergic reaction is happening. They still hurt 7-8 weeks later, they throb all the time and the past few days I've woken up with tiny burning blisters in my mouth, mostly where the crowns sit, a swollen lip, and canker sores on my tonsils.. my lips always tingle as does the the tip of my tongue... such regret. Ugh.
First, it's important to understand that zirconium IS metal. That is to say, it is an organometallic compound - it is comprised of a number of things, including metal. So if you truly are allergic to metal, you shouldn't get a zirconium implant. If you're not truly allergic to metal, there's no reason why you should rule out any other kind of implant.
It's very likely that you're allergic to nickel - this is a common allergy. Surgical steel contains no nickel, and titanium also contains no nickel. So if that's your allergy, you should be fine with standard titanium implants.
Studies show that zirconium might prove useful in the future, but there just isn't enough data to support any ADA recommendation of its use yet. As a powder, it can irritate the skin - and there've only been less than a dozen case studies done on it, and none of them were controlled. So far all the results are anectdotal.
This doesn't mean zirconium is a bad thing to use. It just means there's no indication that it's a good thing to use either. The jury's still out. You would be an experiment, and a costly one at that.
Hello, first time here from South Africa.
Thankfully I came across a bio dentist and he suggested that I do a MELISSA test. It is a blood allergy test for metals, including Zirconia. The test results came back and I have a delayed titanium reaction. I am still waiting for the Zirconia test to come back.
I stopped assuming anything, especially when doctors say: Your probably not allergic....
Have a small update. My allergy doctor came through and she did the glue test on the permanent glue used on the crown. I did show an allergic reaction to the glue.
I had it done on Monday morning, and it itched crazy until wed, when she took it off the skin. It still itched after that too yet I couldn't wash off the glue residue until after the 4 day photo had passed. It was mainly documenting by photos to see if 48, 72 and 96 hours made a difference in how it looked to verify if it was a real allergy or just a minor skin irritation that would fade out.
In a week I am supposed to have someone take a photo of it and will have them email it to me and then I will then email it to my allergy doctor as she wanted to know if it had changed or gone away since the 4 day test in case it was a just a skin irritation only. Not that at all--it is clearly an allergy to me
It just looks like a little tiny donut hole on my back where the sample glue thing was attached to the skin, kind of like a little red burn mark and inside it is all pink looking. I am not sure it will go away.
I put emu cream on it to help itch less and hope it will heal over time. I also put on vit 3 gel capsules oil on to to help it heal and not leave a mark. I alternate them.
It is not itching much. Yet the glue did go into the skin so it will take time for it to escape. (Before it was in my mouth and that took over a month before I got to where I could eat better. The loss of taste eventually came back yet I still have dry mouth at times.) With it in the skin I don't know how long it will take to get out.
The allergy doctor is to send me a letter so I can take that to any dentist I go to if they ever want to use any glue on me in my mouth.
I did tell my former dentist about the being a reaction to the glue just so she would know that I was not making it all up--that something about the crown just didn't feel right. Yet her staff does not care.
I asked about a future sample on the other temporary glue when there was a tube close to be emptied and was told that was not going to happen as I was no longer a patient, even though she gave me the tube when I was not a patient. Her staff sucks on that as far as being concerned. Yet that is okay.
I am pretty sure that since the symptoms started right after the temporary crown was put on, and they continued after the permanent crown was glued on, i likely have a similar allergy to the other glue type as well (though I will never be tested for it).
At least I know of the allergy to the glue.
I just don't plan to have any more crowns or dental work if I can avoid it. I just need my teeth cleaned, nothing more.
So I am good.
I am down to 100 pounds from Xmas of being at 120. I blame stress and some of the glue for that. Yet I am trying to eat.
Goodluck to anybody else out there with issues on similar stuff.
last update: I am just eating enough to keep the weight over 100 pounds. I have dropped pounds. The side effects from the glue have come back. The mark on the back from the glue allergy test still itches at times.
I remember when I got the crown in August of 2019 it took nearly 3 months to get my weight back to normal and for the side effects to go away. I don't recall what I did to get the side effects to go away.
Yet I am not certain they will go away this time. If I am not hungry or the food I am seeing doesn't appeal to me, a lot of times I don't eat. I force my self to eat sometimes even though there is no real taste to stuff.
I am thinking I am going to have to go another dentist again soon. My current dentist is to clean the teeth in early November yet that is not a given. Why? I was scheduled in April for a cleaning then the state shut down everything, and I had to reschedule. So that delayed the 3 month appointment with my other regular dentist. So when the gum doctor cleaned my teeth in July it was six months worth of tartar to take off my teeth. My periodentist specialist who share the cleaninig duties are aware my bp goes up 30 points just stepping inside a dental office and after the cleaning is done the bp goes back to normal for myself at some point when I get back home.
My current dentist person, young, however, is hyper about bp levels and the last time I was there, before the whole world changed back in winter 2019/20, he reluctantly cleaned the teeth. I guess on this upcoming appointment in Fall of 20 if he gives me static over it, I can mention that if the gum doctor can clean my teeth and accept some high readings, then his office should be able to work with me and do the same.
I only want a teeth cleaning doctor for now. Unless I am in major pain and home remedies won't work on a tooth issue, I don't plan to have any dental work done. Particularly since the previous dentist who fired me and had told me I needed a second crown on the other corner--this new dentist I go to now said I don't need a crown there as there is no breakdown yet. So in a sense, this new guy saved me from an unnecessary crown. If I do live on to an old age, likely I will go for dentures than go to a dentist who is money hungry.
I don't plan to get anymore crown done. This crown I had done in August, the tooth itself had not caused any kind of pain at all. She just said I needed a crown there, and it was her way or the highway. I had the crown done. What did I know about it? I believed her. Then I mentioned possible allergy and then she dropped me two days before I was scheduled for a teeth cleaning three months later.
I know there are some good dentists out there who care about their patients and are not driven to up services to get extra income yet there are a lot of them out there who lean toward the overaggressive treatment of teeth issues as they know the patient has no clue as to what is going on inside their mouth and as the dental expert their word should not be questioned.
I will try to sent this. Yes, and i will try to work on eating more and getting my weight back to 110 pounds where it used to be.
Hi all you out there who have this problem with zirconia teeth.
I would like you to send another email to zirkoniaproblems@hotmail.com
where we can fight for our rights together.
then we can mediate contacts with each other.
right now I need this very much as I am dealing with the insurance company.
This whole thread has really got to me. Early last year my dentist said I had decay under a couple of crowns. I asked the dentist would I be getting a porcelain crowns, and she said “yes”. Are they made in America and she said “yes”?
So, I get one crown replaced and another and another. While waiting to get the last cemented, I am talking to the dental assistant. I asked question about the crown and she says, “oh it’s made from zirconium”. I when I asked the dentist, she said oh we use the term porcelain and zirconium interchangeably in the office. I have been getting porcelain crowns for twenty years. I was able to get all my metal dental fillings replaced and porcelain/metal crowns replaced. Now I am back where I started.
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