Is it me or there is A LOT more plane noise in North west Las Vegas recently? Has it impacted your area? (Henderson: homes, schools)
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You've probably noticed by now not many people are posting on city-data these days. You're probably wasting your time posting here. I would look for free legal advice to find out what your best course of action is. If the FAA isn't willing to take action, you need help from higher up, governor, mayor, etc.
I don't know about city council meeting, but we have emailed everyone we could get a hold of and no one cares.
They've been flying right on top of Sun City, Summerlin the whole day today. They had three flights in the morning right on top of Sun City, they had two flights around Lone Mountain (which they used edge of Sun City to get to and come back). Then they flew towards Summerlin south, and again used Sun City to get back to KVGT. This has been just a few of their flights today. Our neighborhood is their main invisible highway for getting to red rock and other conservation land. This is adversely affecting this neighborhood and many others. Home prices will go down, no body wants to live in a war zone with combat alien planes flying over (esp. those with history of previous fatal crashes). Buyers be aware.
They are ABUSING this airspace and there is NO one to stop them.
Most likely Sky Combat is in violation of Part 36 Noise Standards and Airworthiness Certification & in violation of Part 91.303 Aerobatic Flight:No person may operate an aircraft in aerobatic flight —(a) Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement.
However local authorities and FAA refuse to shut them down or send them to outskirt of the City like Jean Airport. They are all looking the other way as Sky Combat Ace loud E300s keep terrorizing residential Summerlin. Read FAA's own statement about the incident in Hoover Dam “so careless or reckless so as to endanger the life or property of another.”Sky Combat Ace had a prior fatal crash of the same model plane in Nevada, after that same plane had previously been cited by the Federal Aviation Administration for violating federal law with illegal and dangerous maneuvers, the Las Vegas Journal-Review reported(link is external)https://www.eastcountymagazine.org/a...fatal-accident
This is beyond irresponsible to allow a business like Sky Combat fly right on top of densely populated residential neighborhoods. However it seems like they are being allowed to act with complete and total impunity to harm our basic quality of life.
There is nothing illegal about these screenshots - it is normal VFR departure / recovery from KVGT underneath the 4000' Class B airspace. If you were to capture their IFF altitude from those screenshots - then you may have a valid complaint against the company.
Stunt flights should be banned “over the congested area of any city, town or settlement”. Thousands of homes are being negatively affected by Sky Combat loud E300s, their engines are being modified to sound like loud sports cars, revving them on top of homes. They exceed FAA's noise limit of 65db, especially when 4 of them fly all together (as they like to do often) over the valley to put on a show. We get many Cessna/helicopters overflying Sun City too (flight schools), but their noise is at least 1/3rd of Sky Combat loud E300s (that are not being modified to be obnoxiously loud or disturbing). When 4 of Sky Combat E300s take off, it sounds like we are living in a war zone. This is unacceptable, considering the fact that the residents here are paying mortgages, property tax, utilities, etc, etc. Eventually this will have a negative impact on house prices, no one would want to pay for an overly priced home in a neighborhood with aerobatic loud planes flying over all the time. The loud noise of their E300s has a very whining quality as three/four of them like to take off and it has become incredibly irritating to have to listen to them all the time now.
Some days, Sky Combat is using Sun City airspace more than 12 times a day to fly in and out of the airport. They are not being rerouted elsewhere (at least 50% of the times) towards north of NE of the airport. They can at least be asked not to overfly over the same area more than once a day. For God's sake, we are not asking for a lot. Our area has a major traffic built-up and Sky Combat's loud obnoxious E300s are adding to the existing problem.
This is a free country and people can do what they like but they shouldn’t do it over settlements or in a way that disturbs others, definitely not with complete and total impunity to harm our basic quality of life. We live in middle of a desert and there’s plenty of open space around and they can easily be moved to outskirt of the city like Jean airport. The local authorities should be able to represent the interest of the area as a whole, not just the airport and associated businesses.
The footprint of Sky Combat Loud E300s stunt planes are negatively affecting many homes west of KVGT, we don't even have any peace and quiet during the weekends or on Sundays. With this inflation, we work really hard during the week just to be able to keep our head above water (paying expensive mortgages, property tax, utility bills, etc, etc), and don't even have any peace and quiet inside our overly priced homes during the weekends to recover and rejuvenate.
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There is nothing illegal about these screenshots - it is normal VFR departure / recovery from KVGT underneath the 4000' Class B airspace. If you were to capture their IFF altitude from those screenshots - then you may have a valid complaint against the company.
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Stunt flights should be banned “over the congested area of any city, town or settlement”. Thousands of homes are being negatively affected by Sky Combat loud E300s, their engines are being modified to sound like loud sports cars, revving them on top of homes. They exceed FAA's noise limit of 65db, especially when 4 of them fly all together (as they like to do often) over the valley to put on a show. We get many Cessna/helicopters overflying Sun City too (flight schools), but their noise is at least 1/3rd of Sky Combat loud E300s (that are not being modified to be obnoxiously loud or disturbing). When 4 of Sky Combat E300s take off, it sounds like we are living in a war zone. This is unacceptable, considering the fact that the residents here are paying mortgages, property tax, utilities, etc, etc. Eventually this will have a negative impact on house prices, no one would want to pay for an overly priced home in a neighborhood with aerobatic loud planes flying over all the time. The loud noise of their E300s has a very whining quality as three/four of them like to take off and it has become incredibly irritating to have to listen to them all the time now.
Some days, Sky Combat is using Sun City airspace more than 12 times a day to fly in and out of the airport. They are not being rerouted elsewhere (at least 50% of the times) towards north of NE of the airport. They can at least be asked not to overfly over the same area more than once a day. For God's sake, we are not asking for a lot. Our area has a major traffic built-up and Sky Combat's loud obnoxious E300s are adding to the existing problem.
This is a free country and people can do what they like but they shouldn’t do it over settlements or in a way that disturbs others, definitely not with complete and total impunity to harm our basic quality of life. We live in middle of a desert and there’s plenty of open space around and they can easily be moved to outskirt of the city like Jean airport. The local authorities should be able to represent the interest of the area as a while, not just the airport and associated businesses.
The footprint of Sky Combat Loud E300s stunt planes are negatively affecting many homes west of KVGT, we don't even have any peace and quiet during the weekends or on Sundays. With this inflation, we work really hard during the week just to be able to keep our head above water (paying expensive mortgages, property tax, utility bills, etc, etc), and don't even have any peace and quiet inside our overly priced homes during the weekends to recover and rejuvenate.
You've made your point. Posting here isn't going to get anything done about it. Have you tried contacting the local TV news channels that sometimes help solve problems like this?
1. KVGT is now in center of the town (due to residential construction rapidly growing around it).
2. We did not buy a home in a retired community (55+) right next to the airport. In fact, on the map it may seem like 6 miles, but there are thousands of homes in between the airport and our area. This area is densely populated and mostly residential.
3. Communities that are affected by Sky Combat obnoxiously loud E300s are not just those adjacent to the airport, Sky combat are flying over more than 10K residential homes, from NW (Lone Mountain) all the way to Summerlin west and beyond. This affects a large community as a whole, not just a small area next to the airport.
4. As you see based on other comments (those who have lived here for 25 years) most have never seen this level of noise pollution, this has been a recent change (suddenly we've gone from 2% to 100% increase in plane noise). These are not private jets who must use this airspace to get from A to B. 99% of the increase in traffic is related to increase in number of flight schools and touring businesses like Sky Combat who could EASILY be moved to outskirt of the City like Jean Airport. It's a sport aviation center deigned for this kind of noise pollution, outside the City limit, without bothering the law abiding, hard working, tax paying citizens below.
5. Sky Combat planes have no place in residential Summerlin (densely populated neighborhoods). FAA's own noise limit for small planes is 65 db and their planes exceeds FAA's own safety limit as they like to overfly residential homes, negatively impacting a large area far from the airport. They like to choose the shortest route to save fuel to go to Red rock & other conservation land (they only fly west of KVGT , instead of north or NE at least half of the times) and their frequent scheduling is making life hell for residents below. They are flying low (600 ft - 1000 ft), the reverberation of their engines lasts for more than 40 sec, their tours about lasts 20 min (10 min of it - almost half their trip is on top of densely populated neighborhoods) and they are in and out of KVGT almost NON-STOP on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.
7. It's not necessary to put these many student pilots and aerobatic planes that low above all of a big chunk of densely populated residential neighborhood. While the flight schools are buying gas and may be helping local economy, so are the thousands and thousands of people who live in this area and pay property taxes, pay expensive mortgages, utility bills, work at local businesses, shop at local businesses, etc. People might be sick, they may have small children/infants, they may work at night and need to catch up with some sleep during the day, they need peace and quiet without loud combat planes revving their engines on top of their heads constantly. When these people start leaving, as they have and will continue to do, that hit to the local economy will be much more impactful than loss from some flight schools which could easily move to the outskirts of the city. At the very absolute least, minimum altitudes should be changed, especially when flying over densely populated residential areas and not conducting maneuvers related to takeoffs/landings. They are flying much higher altitude when outside the city limit.
8. Sky Combat doesn't fly solo and the reverberation of their engines are much much louder when four of them fly together in different directions. This noise pollution is the equivalent of someone running a leaf blower at your front door every few minutes for hours on end. This sort of pollution deserves consideration and has substantial impact on the ability to enjoy our property, homes that existed well before the flight schools opened and certainly before the recent adoption of our area as a free auxiliary training ground.
Our Airforce Nellis is very respectful of residential areas underneath, during their exercises we heard limited noise, they always give noise advisory, and they are not flying low, non-stop, all day, everyday. Their training is temporary/seasonal. Sky Combat Ace planes are deigned to be loud (they advertise them as top gun tours and adrenaline rush) and are flying low and slow. They are like sports cars who like to rev their engines and if we don't take any action against them, they are going to stay here and adversely affect a big chunk of Summerlin residential permananly.
Summerlin residents and NW Lone Mountain residents, Plz Call your local government officials and tell them to move Sky Combat outside the residential Summerlin. Henderson kicked them out after 6 years. We don't deserve to be subjugated to this level of noise/fuel pollution inside our own homes. Thank you
I read through this lengthy post, and I have to tell you, all I heard was...
You copied/pasted my (a random internet person) message board post for your crazy petition? The most important thing you didn't copy was "3 things for you to prove:".....which you've proved none of them. Making a claim that someone intentionally violated Federal Aviation Regulation is quite a statement, I hope you have some proof.
If you're a decent human, you'll delete that petition, do some factual research - get actual data, then fire up the boomers in Sun City.
Move Sky Combat Ace out of North Las Vegas Airport - KVGT
Do you feel you are living in a war zone lately? Well, you're not alone. Resident west of KVGT are being negatively affected by Sky Combat Ace loud E300s. Areas affected on a daily basis are NW - Lower Kyle Canyon area, Lone Mountain, Sun city Summerlin, Summerlin west, Queensridge, red rock ranch rd, and even Summerlin south.
Sky Combat Ace planes are out of KVGT almost non-stop these days (Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun the noise is pretty bad). Their noise can be heard miles and miles away west of KVGT. The neighborhoods right on top of their flight paths are being negatively impacted even more than others. Their loud E300s are affecting a big chunk of residential Summerlin, Lone Mountain and NW. Thousands of residential home are along their daily flight path, in between west of KVGT and red rock (where they like to fly).
Sky Combat Ace loud E300s are TERRORIZING residential Summerlin on a daily basis now and no one is stopping them. They've been in and out of KVGT since 9 am this morning, flying on top of Sun City Summerlin or edge of Sun City.
Please contact local authorities and tell them to move Sky Combat Ace to Jean Airport.
The airport, FAA and local authorities are refusing to take any action and move Sky Combat Ace to jean airport. FAA is allowing American citizens to be exposed to unsafe levels of plane noise. We need to come together as a community and kick Sky Combat out of densely populated neighborhoods where they like to terrorize the American citizens.
In addition to noise, there are safety issues regarding Sky Combat E300s. Here is FAA's statement about Sky Combat incident in Hoover Dam “so careless or reckless so as to endanger the life or property of another.” Sky Combat Ace had a prior fatal crash of the same model plane in Nevada and California, after that same plane had previously been cited by the Federal Aviation Administration for violating federal law with illegal and dangerous maneuvers. Oceanside banned Sky Combat due to noise and safety complaints from the residents. What would it take for local officials in Las Vegas to take the right action? Hopefully not another crash.
North Las Vegas Airport Noise Complaint Office (Hotline: 702-261-3694, or Direct Line: 702-261-5600)
FAA’s Flight Standards District Office: (702) 617-8500
Commissioner Miller's office (for district C): Phone: (702) 455-4901
Congresswoman Susie Lee 702-963-9336, Senator Nicole Cannizzaro for district C
(Nicole.Cannizzaro@sen.state.nv.us), North Las Vegas Mayor Pamela Goynes-Brown (702) 633-1007, and councilwoman Allen-palenske (702) 334-0939.
Contact your local senators and congressmen/women and let them know how Sky Combat is terrorizing residential Summerlin.
Funny, I just noticed this today. Saw three small planes and a helicopter fly over me on the same flight path while out walking the dog and I’d never seen that before. They were heading NW and low enough to see details. I’ve seen the flight schools out flying around at night around the north. They’re usually higher up and further off in the distance circling around. I watch all kinds of air traffic up here like I usually see the 5 military jets always at sunset, and heavier military practice on Tuesdays sometimes. Also there’s lots of drone traffic up here with drones zipping around back and forth. That’s something new to see.
I too live in SCS but I like the planes, helicopters and their sweet sound.....I wave as they fly right over my house......so, relax
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Move Sky Combat Ace out of North Las Vegas Airport - KVGT
