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What will be the consequences or will NATO just let it happen like they did with Crimea to prevent WW3?
Most likely the story will repeat as always: the west will get their ass kicked, just ask Napoleon and Hitler. Russia cannot be defeated in a war or to be more specific: it cannot be defeated in a war that it knows it can't loose. One thing is to loose in Afghanistan, another to loose ww1, ww2 or Ukraine. Ukraine is seen as a historical part of Russia, no one buys western propaganda that "all the white eastern europeans are against the black russians"...well they aren't lol, I'm not even sure what cnn are on anymore.
Russian banks will be blacklisted and Russia will be suspended from SWIFT. Ruble will free fall like Lira and Russia will be even poorer than it is.
Putin would probably remain in power though. Russians are used to being royally ****ed over by their ruling class.
Looks like I have some catching up to do on news. Please fill me in. Since when are Russian banks taken seriously by international banks? Since when has the ruble been regarded as having any value at all outside of Russia, other than possibly, maybe by some of its immediate neighbors? Ruble will "free fall"? From where, and how did it get where it is, wherever that is? This idea that the ruble is a monetary unit to be taken seriously is new to me. Forgive me for being behind the times. If I've missed out on important info, I'd like to know. Truly.
Putin would catch serious flack from the Russian public for having dragged Russia into a war. His main propaganda tool, a film showing a fake atrocity perpetrated on Russian residents of Ukraine by Ukrainian military, was outed in advance by the US, so he doesn't really have a justifiable reason (other than historical claims) for invading a foreign country.
He would survive the flack in his usual style, but people wouldn't forget. And sure, there would always be those who support him.
Most likely the story will repeat as always: the west will get their ass kicked, just ask Napoleon and Hitler. Russia cannot be defeated in a war or to be more specific: it cannot be defeated in a war that it knows it can't loose. One thing is to loose in Afghanistan, another to loose ww1, ww2 or Ukraine. Ukraine is seen as a historical part of Russia, no one buys western propaganda that "all the white eastern europeans are against the black russians"...well they aren't lol, I'm not even sure what cnn are on anymore.
It doesn't matter that Ukraine was historically part of Russia. It's been an independent country since the end of WWII, whose status was created as such by Russia itself, in negotiations with the West.
The American Southwest historically was part of Mexico. You don't see Mexico trying to take it back.
Kosovo was part of Yugoslavia or Serbia. You don't see Serbia trying to take it back. Or who knows, maybe someday we will see that.
Norway used to be part of Denmark.
Mongolia for awhile was part of China, and China, along with most of the rest of Asia and part of Europe, historically was part of an expanded Mongolia.
"Northern Manchuria" (Russia's Primorskii Krai and Khabarovskii Krai) used to be part of China. Should China try to take it back? Why not, if Russia can take Ukraine back?
Where does the "oops, we changed our mind. We want our former territory back" end?
^ Just look at my last post in the europe forum. Has anyone asked if Ukraine or any other eastern european want to be part of Nato? No, they get "joined" aka - invaded by the west. Most invasions are under the excuse of "protection" like protection racketeering or whatever. Just because Russia sees it as something doesn't mean Ukraine wants the total opposite. Most people in eastern europe actually prefer not to be in nato, well the ones who use their brain anyway.
^ I never said the politicians in eastern europe are ideal and far from corrupt, and like I mentioned before your sources aren't the eternal truth either. On another note if I am not mistaken the current president of Ukraine is a tv show comedian...literally.
It doesn't matter that Ukraine was historically part of Russia. It's been an independent country since the end of WWII, whose status was created as such by Russia itself, in negotiations with the West.
Did you completely skipped history lessons or is it what they teach in the West now?
I don't understand why the Russian people wouldn't have a revolution and overthrow the government unless they're just that brainwashed. Ukrainians favor being a part of NATO, as in theory NATO protects them from something like this, as it's trying to do now. NATO is supposed to be about keeping the peace. Ukrainian civilians are prepared to fight, not just the military. This won't be as easy as Crimea was.
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