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given the extra ordinary rise in energy prices I wouldnt be surprised if there are many extra deaths during what could be a very cold winter in the UK.
given the extra ordinary rise in energy prices I wouldnt be surprised if there are many extra deaths during what could be a very cold winter in the UK.
The Guardian noted that Britain's Covid deaths this summer was double what last summers death numbers were, highest numbers among oldest people. It does look like rise in cost of energy could cause more sickness/deaths this winter.
In US inflation is causing money problems for those in poverty and senior-aged on fixed incomes. These are problems that people are quiet about because of embarrassment. Covid has disrupted many lives, disrupted many supply chains and it keeps going on.
As I posted earlier SHTF is here, has been here since Covid arrived. But many people don't think it's here until it affects them personally.
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And with higher commodity prices, grain and pulse producers should have a good year- especially in some regions of the state that received adequate rainfall this spring and early summer.
It doesn't work like that. The producers don't get those prices, the traders do. And the more consolidation in the "food processor" layer of the food chain, the less the farmers will get. Of course the processing plants cost more to run, with extra safeguards due to Covid, more difficulty getting employees, higher energy costs, higher medical costs, and now higher taxes.
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Originally Posted by bigpaul
given the extra ordinary rise in energy prices I wouldnt be surprised if there are many extra deaths during what could be a very cold winter in the UK.
But didn't you see the message from the grasshopper, yesterday?
Relax, have a beer, nothing is going to happen.
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Originally Posted by twinkletwinkle22
The Guardian noted that Britain's Covid deaths this summer was double what last summers death numbers were, highest numbers among oldest people. It does look like rise in cost of energy could cause more sickness/deaths this winter.
In US inflation is causing money problems for those in poverty and senior-aged on fixed incomes. These are problems that people are quiet about because of embarrassment. Covid has disrupted many lives, disrupted many supply chains and it keeps going on.
As I posted earlier SHTF is here, has been here since Covid arrived. But many people don't think it's here until it affects them personally.
One reason some people are skeptical about the supply chain disruptions, is that there is a lot of variability from place to place. Even store to store. S.C. got hit hard, at least for a while. Florida may be getting hit with a disruption, right now. Yet, where I am, and just east of me, the supply chains are rock solid.
there is a lot of talk here of "heat OR eat" but we get that every winter, its just the usual masses panicking if their lifestyle is affected.
there are some food supply problems in my rural area, some stores have less on the shelves but we just go to another store and they have what we couldnt get in the first store.
petrol went up in price for awhile but is slowly coming back down again.
there WILL be an energy crisis for many on low income and some pensioners but they live hand to mouth every week anyway, food banks have been a growth industry especially in the cities, but they can still afford their wide screen tv's and the latest smart phone.
wait until we get the power cuts that the industry is forecasting this winter then you'll really hear the howls of the unprepared, they know its coming but will do nothing to help themselves.
its not a case of WHEN will we have SHTF in the UK, for many its already here.
just be thankful we dont live in Edinburgh, the refuse men are on strike and the refuse is piling up in the streets, and more Scottish cities are due to follow suite, thank goodness we dont have smellyvision!!!
The trigger occurred 89 years ago, when "saint" FDR suspended constitutional government via his declaration of a State of Emergency.
Inertia explains the slow collapse, but it has been ongoing.
We're the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of America, now.
There are less than 2 taxpayers per recipient, and the Collective State is going to indebt us all a whole lot more, before it's all said and done.
The poll is pretty well U.S.-centric. And I don't know what event criteria need to fit to make an event a SHTF level one.
I don't expect SHTF in the U.S., not anytime soon. Funnily enough I am going to go contrarian on this line of thinking, big time. I think the U.S. could be on the cusp of major business and tech innovation that will bring about an era of cultural renewal and prosperity. Glory days not seen for a generation, or two. So how about that.
As for the rest of the world, I am not so optimistic. It wouldn't surprise me if a blockade of Taiwan happens but how bad will that get? I have no inside track, but I could see something happening within the next 3 years, give or take. A lot of military sabre-rattling by China, but we will see. World economic problems will impact China, and maybe even environmental changes, they are experiencing a massive drought this summer and that could be a problem next year too...
Russia's internal strife could worsen, as it becomes more of an impoverished hermit state. But they will become more and more isolated, that's what my foggy crystal ball says. The black swan event there might be with a Russian nuclear station.
Nukes outside the U.S. worry me way more than anything going on within the U.S.
Can't "have a SHTF event" until we agree on a shared definition of TSHTF.
Well that is true, and I recall someone trying to nail down different degrees of SHTF, but it was a while back and I don't remember much about it.
Incidentally, your link doesn't match the quote from the link, and I don't see how the picture is reverent.
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