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View Poll Results: IYO... Are we about to experience a SHTF event
NO 42 37.17%
YES 21 18.58%
Very soon, less then 3 months 7 6.19%
In 6 months or so 8 7.08%
It will happen shortly, but last less then a month 1 0.88%
It will happen but gradually 16 14.16%
By next year big time event 3 2.65%
Absolutely, I'm expecting a form of civil war 11 9.73%
It will be a slow burn towards depression 16 14.16%
Our government will suspend the constitution and declare Marshall law 7 6.19%
other... explain 9 7.96%
Only wacko's believe in SHTF, not the town in Texas 8 7.08%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-17-2022, 02:23 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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SHTF has already started, open your eyes, there is so much going on in both the US and UK, Europe and Asia.
And, each of us is in a different type of SHTF, that came with its own timeline.

I expect, next year, for the US to move, from one SHTF situation to a different one ...

But, comparatively, here in the Flyover States of America, the situation ain't all that bad.

Just a little smelly from the big cities and coasts
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Old 08-17-2022, 06:51 AM
 
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Evidence is that any SHTF scenario COULD be almost instantaneous. The evidence for this is that frozen mammoth which was found with undigested grass in its stomach frozen in the tundra. This suggests that flash freezing or flash fire events could happen and take us out at any time. Just because we have not had one does not mean it cannot happen. Evidence is that it does.

Also as others have said, a sun flare could take out the electrical grid in seconds. It would not be a matter of months but years to recreate the infrastructure we have now and probably never. Think what would happen when we have no electricity - thats no control, no computers, no water, no gas, no traffic lights, no gas pumps, no fuel, no industry. People would not be able to work or get to work or carry out work. Therefore, no rebuilding of the infrastructure.

Preparation is useless as any SHTF scenario is not going to be short-lived. You may live longer than others if you have learned useful skills, but as far as preparation is concerned. In my opinion, it is useless.

Well today is that day:

According to space experts, a massive solar flare has emerged from the Sun and will most likely hit the Earth on August 17, causing minor disruptions.

Its traveling at 1.3 million miles per hour and left the sun on Sunday.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:20 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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And, each of us is in a different type of SHTF, that came with its own timeline.

I expect, next year, for the US to move, from one SHTF situation to a different one ...

But, comparatively, here in the Flyover States of America, the situation ain't all that bad.

Just a little smelly from the big cities and coasts
not what I heard! isnt Biden shutting down any lawful protest and going after gun owners and any republicans?
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:30 AM
 
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If you want to do mental exercises and imagine what SHTF scenarios there could be, thats fine. If you want to plan for disaster, thats fine too. It is just another hobby that people engage in, but, if you think it will save your life and allow you to survive until you die of old age after a SHTF event, then in my opinion, you are fantasizing.
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Americans flocked South – and to Vermont – in 2021, according to a study released Monday by United Van Lines, which also found that the COVID-19 pandemic continues to be a driver in moving decisions.

The moving company’s 45th annual report on customers' migration patterns found that nearly 32% of Americans who moved did so to be closer to family. Of the 10 states with the highest inbound move percentages, eight are among the 25 least densely populated states in the nation, according to United Van Lines.

The data is “indicative of COVID-19’s impact on domestic migration patterns, with 2021 bringing an acceleration of moves to smaller, midsized towns and cities,†Michael Stoll, an economist and public policy professor at the University of California—Los Angeles, said in a written statement. “We’re seeing this not only occur because of Americans’ desire to leave high density areas due to risk of infection, but also due to the transformation of how we’re able to work, with more flexibility to work remote.â€

Vermont had the highest inbound move rate, at 74%. Beyond the Green Mountain State and others such as South Dakota and Oregon, half of the top 10 states – South Carolina, West Virginia, Florida, Alabama and Tennessee – are located in the South. Idaho, which previously had the highest inbound percentage for two years in a row, fell to No. 9 in 2021. Rhode Island rounded out the top 10 with an inbound rate of 59%.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-a-study-finds

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Those Americans who did move accelerated a trend that predates the pandemic: Dense core counties of major U.S. metro areas saw a net decrease in flow into the city, while other suburbs and some smaller cities saw net gains. In other words, people moved outward. Outward to the suburbs of their own core metro area, but also farther out, to satellite cities or even other major urban centers that might still give people proximity to their region. As CityLab contributor Richard Florida has noted, the pandemic compressed into a matter of months moves that might have happened in the next few years anyway.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...ericans-moved/

I feel like the country is separating. There is a realignment happening across the country NOW.

Read this thread about a guy thinking of moving to Staten Island, but he is concerned about a possible Trump supporter living next door. Was politics ever been so divided before? - https://www.city-data.com/forum/new-...sland-not.html.

The January 6th rioters are so hated that they are even worthy of the Bill of Rights. How much can you hate your fellow citizens that you are willing to suspend their Constitutional rights?

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WASHINGTON, Oct 13 (Reuters) - A federal judge on Wednesday held top officials at the Washington, D.C., Department of Corrections in civil contempt, after ruling they violated the civil rights of a U.S. Capitol riot defendant by impeding his access to medical care.

"It is more than just inept and bureaucratic shuffling of papers," U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth said.

"I find that the civil rights of the defendant have been abridged. I don't know if it's because he is a Jan. 6 defendant or not, but I find that this matter should be referred to the attorney general of the United States ... for a civil rights investigation."

Wednesday marks the first time a judge has issued such an order -- which carries no penalty of its own -- against the jail over the treatment of Jan. 6 defendants, after defense lawyers in other cases have previously complained about poor conditions or treatment at the D.C. jail.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...nt-2021-10-13/

Even Elizabeth Warren has spoken out!

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren fled the Capitol on Jan. 6 from a mob she later called domestic terrorists. Now she and another Senate Democratic leader are standing up for their attackers’ rights as criminal defendants.

Most of the 300-plus people charged with participating in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot have been released while they await trial, but dozens of those deemed to be dangerous, flight risks or at high risk of obstructing justice were ordered held without bond. D.C. jail officials later determined that all Capitol detainees would be placed in so-called restrictive housing — a move billed as necessary to keep the defendants safe, as well as guards and other inmates. But that means 23-hour-a-day isolation for the accused, even before their trials begin.

D.C. government officials say the pandemic already has sharply limited freedom of movement in the jail where most Jan. 6 defendants are held. In fact, the entire jail has been subject to strict lockdown procedures since the onset of the pandemic, a determination that has caused broader controversy about prisoners’ rights. But restrictive housing is a maximum-security designation, and the blanket designation for the Capitol defendants — which isn’t expected to ease even if pandemic era restrictions do — is a notable decision for a large group of inmates who have yet to be tried for their alleged crimes.

This is not normal. It’s not normal to isolate people and make them eat on their floor,†said Marty Tankleff, a defense attorney representing two detained defendants, Edward Lang and Dominic Pezzola.

Tankleff, who himself was imprisoned for nearly two decades on a murder conviction before his 2008 exoneration, urged other lawmakers who see the Jan. 6 defendants’ conditions as unjust to contact him.

Attorneys for a slew of other accused rioters, meanwhile, say their clients’ conditions have made it nearly impossible to conduct genuine attorney-client meetings. Two defendants have contracted Covid in the D.C. jail, and one, Ryan Samsel, claims he was beaten by a prison guard and left with permanent eye damage.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...-warren-483125

BTW, I am not pro-Trump, but pro-US Constitution.

Well, if you study the Spanish Civil War in the 1930's, it started out with neighbors intolerant of each other views to hating each other enough to kill them. We are pretty close to that now.

This movies captures the beginning of the Spanish Civil War in very human terms. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0188030/. So when the SHTF happens, government and big corporations will work together against a segment of the population. It will be their neighbors/fellow countrymen who create civil unrest and riots to enforce the changes.

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Old 08-17-2022, 11:21 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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not what I heard! isnt Biden shutting down any lawful protest and going after gun owners and any republicans?
Yes, he took my gun last week.
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:11 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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BTW, it's spelled "martial" law, not Marshall.
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Old 08-17-2022, 03:33 PM
 
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Oh definitely. While grocery shopping, the peanut butter I like was on sale, so I bought an extra jar. I take these concerns seriously.
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Old 08-18-2022, 03:25 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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not what I heard! isnt Biden shutting down any lawful protest and going after gun owners and any republicans?
Well, it isn't happening in the Flyover States, yet.
And many of our sheriffs out here have made it known that federales who violate gun owners rights will find themselves in jail. People in the Midwest don't want a war, but many of them have been in a couple, and aren't going to back down ...
(which is the real reason the Insurgents want to infringe on gun ownership rights)

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The January 6th rioters are so hated that they are even worthy of the Bill of Rights. How much can you hate your fellow citizens that you are willing to suspend their Constitutional rights?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...nt-2021-10-13/
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Those who have rounded up Patriots and locked them up in the DC gulags are simply criminals, and when did you ever see a criminal who was concerned with the rights of his victim?

Quite honestly, as well, I was pleasantly surprised they found a judge in DC that isn't compromised, and was willing to stand up for the Constitution. Many of us are very concerned about the Patriots who have been rounded up and locked in the gulag, since they will be facing judges and juries in the socialist District of Corruption (where about 90% of the people support the insurgents).
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Old 08-18-2022, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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In my county (Florida), the sheriff has publicly stated... if ever there was a federal ban on firearms, he would deputize every citizen who wanted to keep their firearms.
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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My crystal ball is cloudy, but it does seem like the current administration is trying to provoke a civil war.
Too many rebels today content with just being keyboard warriors, they don't want to be away from their keyboards too long to get their hands dirty, or God forbid, man up and spend a day in Jail as a result of being in a Protest.

And then there's the omnipresent surveillance cameras and carrying a Smartphone with you is like carrying a spy with you.

We can be thankful we don't follow the non-violent, more successful protesters in South America who merely block roads around the country when they're angry with the government.
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